french_connection,Feb 3 2005, 05:52 PM Wrote:The more I think about it, I dont think anyone on this board will ever buy a turbo kit.
-----> EVER.
discussion closed, save your time and money.
(demografic of the focus owner on this club wont let it happen, the one who want turbo can barely afford to buy 1 part every 3 months, and the one who could afford it have other priorities for their money.)
...Beside few exceptions. but you dont base a market on exceptions.
Sad but true.
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it's true...anyone with the $$$ seems to simply be buying a better car in the first place...or at least a more powerful car from the factory.
I'm guessing that few people have the money for a Focus, a full turbo kit and other mods, AND the reserve $$$ to replace it all if something blows or their insurance claim is denied in the event of an accident.
If I were to do it all over again with a Focus...suspension, tires, custom turbo kit from parts you source yourself...and then dish out some $$$ for proper tuning. 7k for a non-tuned Focus kit is...silly (IMHO). You could do what I just said for much less than that if you take the time to learn how to install it yourself (or pay someone like Jay to do it, lol)
I do understand why Tom and Steeda charge/quote the prices that they do though:
1. reputation
- you slap together your own kit and it blows up, doesn't make the anticipated power, whatever...you're disappointed in yourself...the end. THEY do the same thing, their business and reputation suffer and they have a customer expecting compensation.
2. cost and time required to develop and replicate a reliable, proven kit
- customers generally don't want to be a guinea pig...you bring your car in, you expect a proven, reliable kit that will make x level of power, and require tuning once or twice...AND they have to be able to do that each and every time...that means R&D time and cost for them. You do a kit yourself, you have the luxery of trial and error, taking your time, adding stuff a bit at a time, experimenting with different parts, etc.
3. because they can
- who *is* putting out a reliable, proven kit, will stand behind their work and have your car in and out of the shop in a matter of days with no further work needed? not too many people...so they can charge a premium.'
I wouldn't get angry at them...I'd be frustrated at how comparatively small the forced induction aftermarket client base is for the Focus. There simply are not that many people out there wanting to turbo a Focus (compared to a Civic, for eg).
Ford needs someone, in house or not, to do what Mopar is doing for the SRT-4!!!!!!