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Third Gear Synchro Problem? - focusonthis88 - 01-26-2006

Im I the only one that is having that problem?? If anybody got that problem and goit and go it fix how much was that...only the synchro.


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - hardk0re - 01-26-2006

I got this problem, mostly at the track when i'm on it I usually get a scratch in my 1-2 shift. I had a 3rd gear scratch problem once and a while.

Here is the problem, to fix this they gotta remove the tranny and crack it open. The parts cost probably very little, it is the labour that will kill you.


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - focusonthis88 - 01-26-2006

Could you remove a transmission without going to a garage?? I mean like not having to jack the car up 8 feet. Can it be done just by jacking the car with jacks a removing the tranny??


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - hardk0re - 01-26-2006

Yes but its not easy like changing the oil pan or changing your alternator. It is VERY labour intensive, the tranny for 1 isn't the lightest and the clearances are very tight.

I for one would pay the $400-600 or so to have the tranny dropped and re-installed.



Third Gear Synchro Problem? - focusonthis88 - 01-26-2006

One of my buddie is a mecanic im just trying to get a hold of him and ask him if it's possible to do it at home.


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - nass - 01-26-2006

before you even think of trying this I would see if and how you can properly and safely jack the car up atleast 3-4 feet to give you some clearance under the car to move and what not. Having the car only inches above your chest will only piss you off when you can't reach things. Like Hardkore said you're WAY better off getting a garage to do this for you or if possible try to find a "garage for rent" place where they provide the hoist and you do your own work. I know there are atleast 1 of those places in my area.

Good luck


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - focusonthis88 - 01-26-2006

nass,Jan 25 2006, 02:55 PM Wrote:Like Hardkore said you're WAY better off getting a garage to do this for you or if possible try to find a "garage for rent" place where they provide the hoist and you do your own work. I know there are atleast 1 of those places in my area.

Good luck
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Little problem...My car doesn't fit on a hoist!!! I need to do oil change in a pit garage.


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - PerfectSaiyan - 01-26-2006

your 3rd gear synchro sticks.

I hate that, I have it too. the transmission isnt moving at the same RPM as the engine and it grinds.

the problem solver: double clutch. or when your are roaring from 2nd to 3rd gear, dont FORCE the gear in, gently move it from 2nd into 3rd and the problem is solved. when downshifting, use gentle force from 4th to 3rd.

but yes if your pwning a honda boy, who cares about the synchro grinding a tiny bit, he cant hear it from 50 feet behind you.


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - nass - 01-26-2006

focusonthis_88,Jan 25 2006, 07:09 PM Wrote:
nass,Jan 25 2006, 02:55 PM Wrote:Like Hardkore said you're WAY better off getting a garage to do this for you or if possible try to find a "garage for rent" place where they provide the hoist and you do your own work. I know there are atleast 1 of those places in my area.

Good luck
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Little problem...My car doesn't fit on a hoist!!! I need to do oil change in a pit garage.
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now who's fault is that? :) I know it's sucks when you lower your car that oil change just got that much harder to do... even in the driveway

some garages might have a lower profile hoist so all that's needed is some wood and then bob's your uncle. Bring your own wood for better results heh


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - focusonthis88 - 01-26-2006

nass,Jan 26 2006, 12:32 AM Wrote:now who's fault is that? :) I know it's sucks when you lower your car that oil change just got that much harder to do... even in the driveway

some garages might have a lower profile hoist so all that's needed is some wood and then bob's your uncle. Bring your own wood for better results heh
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I find a garage that has a pit...so i'll need to go change my oil there. But about my synchro...Im just scared that it's going to fack more if I get the turbo.



Third Gear Synchro Problem? - PerfectSaiyan - 01-27-2006

focusonthis_88,Jan 26 2006, 12:19 PM Wrote:
nass,Jan 26 2006, 12:32 AM Wrote:now who's fault is that? :) I know it's sucks when you lower your car that oil change just got that much harder to do... even in the driveway

some garages might have a lower profile hoist so all that's needed is some wood and then bob's your uncle. Bring your own wood for better results heh
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I find a garage that has a pit...so i'll need to go change my oil there. But about my synchro...Im just scared that it's going to fack more if I get the turbo.
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just dont ride it hard all the timeand youll prolly be fine.


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - paolo - 01-28-2006

ive had this problem happen early, like at 6000K and ford acknowledged it and they replaced the tranny, now its still did it from time to time, leading me to believe the trannys are just built crappy from the gechko. nothing really u can do but emptry the tranny fluid and fill it with royal purple or red line or whatever that special sh1t they advertize in the racing magazines. Ask FourFactor about this, hes very familiar, he even went the extra length and got his all fixed up though he paid for it


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - focusonthis88 - 01-28-2006

paolo,Jan 27 2006, 10:16 AM Wrote:Ask FourFactor about this, hes very familiar, he even went the extra length and got his all fixed up though he paid for it
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Who is fourfactor??? He's he a member here?


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - Flofocus - 01-28-2006

focusonthis_88,Jan 27 2006, 10:40 AM Wrote:
paolo,Jan 27 2006, 10:16 AM Wrote:Ask FourFactor about this, hes very familiar, he even went the extra length and got his all fixed up though he paid for it
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Who is fourfactor??? He's he a member here?
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Good question! I thought that guy was done 4factor.


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - paolo - 01-28-2006

Flofocus,Jan 27 2006, 11:20 AM Wrote:
focusonthis_88,Jan 27 2006, 10:40 AM Wrote:
paolo,Jan 27 2006, 10:16 AM Wrote:Ask FourFactor about this, hes very familiar, he even went the extra length and got his all fixed up though he paid for it
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Who is fourfactor??? He's he a member here?
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Good question! I thought that guy was done 4factor.
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http://www.focuscanada.net/forum/index.php?showuser=37
Yes, just because he runs a company called 4factor thats not doing too well doesnt mean hes dead... He's still a Ford Focus owner just like you and me.. he also used to be an active particpant on here at one time too, he even has more posts than scooba steve.



Third Gear Synchro Problem? - Flofocus - 01-28-2006

I havent heard from him since the DSCR days, and his website doesnt work (unless he's changed it). <_<

Maybe thats the reason his business isnt doing to well! ;) :lol:


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - MICHAEL - 03-30-2006

2002 ZTEC 5 SPEED MTX75 I HAVE TO AGREE THESE TRANSMISSIONS
A A PIECE OF CRAP FROM THE GET GO IF YOU PUSH THEM HARD THEY SYNCROS
WILL WERE OUT FAST IN MY OPINION IT IS THE OIL THAT FORD IS USING

TO COMPENSATE FOR COLD WEATHER SHIFTING THEY ARE USING A THINNER OIL BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE LIFE OF THE TRANNY WILL SUFFER

I WISH I NEVER BOUGHT THIS CAR I ONLY SEE REPAIR BILLS DOWN THE ROAD

AND FOR THOSE DIEHARDS I HAVE 70,000 KLM AND HAVE HAD THE CAR SERVICE 10 TIMES ALL MAJOR REPAIRS 2 OF WHICH WERETRANNY RELATED

WHAT A GO FORD


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - habmann - 03-31-2006

MICHAEL,Mar 29 2006, 10:06 PM Wrote:2002 ZTEC 5 SPEED MTX75  I HAVE TO AGREE THESE TRANSMISSIONS
A A PIECE OF CRAP FROM THE GET GO IF YOU PUSH THEM HARD THEY SYNCROS
WILL WERE OUT FAST IN MY OPINION IT IS THE OIL THAT FORD IS USING

TO COMPENSATE FOR COLD WEATHER SHIFTING THEY ARE USING A THINNER OIL BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE LIFE OF THE TRANNY WILL SUFFER 

I WISH I NEVER BOUGHT THIS CAR I ONLY SEE REPAIR BILLS DOWN THE ROAD

AND FOR THOSE DIEHARDS I HAVE 70,000 KLM  AND HAVE HAD THE CAR SERVICE 10 TIMES ALL MAJOR REPAIRS 2 OF WHICH WERETRANNY RELATED

WHAT A GO FORD
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1 Turn the caps off.
2 Punctuation would help alot.
3 What did you expect when buying a ford?


Third Gear Synchro Problem? - focusonthis88 - 03-31-2006

habmann,Mar 30 2006, 10:06 AM Wrote:
MICHAEL,Mar 29 2006, 10:06 PM Wrote:2002 ZTEC 5 SPEED MTX75  I HAVE TO AGREE THESE TRANSMISSIONS
A A PIECE OF CRAP FROM THE GET GO IF YOU PUSH THEM HARD THEY SYNCROS
WILL WERE OUT FAST IN MY OPINION IT IS THE OIL THAT FORD IS USING

TO COMPENSATE FOR COLD WEATHER SHIFTING THEY ARE USING A THINNER OIL BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE LIFE OF THE TRANNY WILL SUFFER 

I WISH I NEVER BOUGHT THIS CAR I ONLY SEE REPAIR BILLS DOWN THE ROAD

AND FOR THOSE DIEHARDS I HAVE 70,000 KLM  AND HAVE HAD THE CAR SERVICE 10 TIMES ALL MAJOR REPAIRS 2 OF WHICH WERETRANNY RELATED

WHAT A GO FORD
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1 Turn the caps off.
2 Punctuation would help alot.
3 What did you expect when buying a ford?
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Thank you!!!! I was waiting for someone to tell him! :lol:



Third Gear Synchro Problem? - habmann - 03-31-2006

Well i figured bunny jumped on him in another thread for the same thing so i thought i should do it in this thread.