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Asians Oversell Horsepower - Kool_ZX3 - 08-18-2005
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0.../A01-283759.htm
Looks like honda and toyota wasn't always truthful :D
Ford and GM did damn good, the cts-v went up alot over what it was before B) camry took a big hit in one engine
Asians Oversell Horsepower - crazikev - 08-18-2005
toyota and honda= LIARS
Asians Oversell Horsepower - FocusTunerzx3 - 08-18-2005
Lol alot of the NA manufactures actually down rate there HP.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - FociBC - 08-18-2005
crazikev,Aug 17 2005, 07:56 PM Wrote:toyota and honda= LIARS
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like other companies haven't done the same.....
anyways, biased opinions aside both companies espeically Toyota produce much better vehicles.
Let's face Ford is good but, the build quality suffers when compared to other imports
Asians Oversell Horsepower - Raine - 08-18-2005
Quote:Honda Civic (2005) 200 hp (2006) 197 hp
Um... did I miss something here???
Asians Oversell Horsepower - Oscar The Grouch - 08-18-2005
Doesn't anyone find this odd that the paper is the "Detroit Auto News" and its basically showing that all of the Domestic cars were truthful and Asians were bad? And most of the underperformers are 4cyl?
Sounds like media manipulation if you ask me. Especially when Domestics are taking a s**t kicking in sales.
I'm having a hard time believing this until I see more details.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - 2001 ZTS - 08-18-2005
Raine,Aug 18 2005, 01:34 AM Wrote:Quote:Honda Civic (2005) 200 hp  (2006) 197 hp
Um... did I miss something here???
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There has been no change in the engine itself just a change in how output is measured.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - OAC_Sparky - 08-18-2005
Oscar The Grouch,Aug 18 2005, 06:42 AM Wrote:Doesn't anyone find this odd that the paper is the "Detroit Auto News" and its basically showing that all of the Domestic cars were truthful and Asians were bad? And most of the underperformers are 4cyl?Dude, I don't know where in Canada you are, but I'm originally from Windsor.
Sounds like media manipulation if you ask me. Especially when Domestics are taking a s**t kicking in sales.
I'm having a hard time believing this until I see more details.
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If there ever was an anti-domestic newspaper, it would be the Detroit News.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - Oscar The Grouch - 08-18-2005
OAC_Sparky,Aug 18 2005, 07:57 AM Wrote:Oscar The Grouch,Aug 18 2005, 06:42 AM Wrote:Doesn't anyone find this odd that the paper is the "Detroit Auto News" and its basically showing that all of the Domestic cars were truthful and Asians were bad? And most of the underperformers are 4cyl?Dude, I don't know where in Canada you are, but I'm originally from Windsor.
Sounds like media manipulation if you ask me. Especially when Domestics are taking a s**t kicking in sales.
I'm having a hard time believing this until I see more details.
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If there ever was an anti-domestic newspaper, it would be the Detroit News.
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Detroit News anti-domestic??? Don't you mean anti-import? BTW I'm in North Bay...
Edit: I just browsed through some of the newer headlines in their auto section and most seem to favor Domestics over Imports.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - ANTHONYD - 08-18-2005
I know Hyundai got into hot water with the release of the tibby.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - nass - 08-19-2005
Raine,Aug 18 2005, 06:34 AM Wrote:Quote:Honda Civic (2005) 200 hp (2006) 197 hp
Um... did I miss something here???
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meh that's nothing a few stickers won't fix.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - darkpuppet - 08-19-2005
the mazda was the big one... when they first came out touting 237 WHP or something like that, but delivered under 200WHP .. and it being attributed to the car always running in 'safe mode'
Asians Oversell Horsepower - OAC_Sparky - 08-19-2005
Oscar The Grouch,Aug 18 2005, 07:43 AM Wrote:Detroit News anti-domestic??? Don't you mean anti-import? BTW I'm in North Bay...No, I mean anti-domestic.
Edit: I just browsed through some of the newer headlines in their auto section and most seem to favor Domestics over Imports.
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Articles have only been favorable lately because domestics have gotten better (relatively).
Wasn't a year ago when Bill Ford couldn't fart without getting crucified.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - Frost__2001 - 08-19-2005
Well I think it's about time some one did this type of article, I mean it's like the old style of how car manufactures are quoting higher gas milage with newer cars and reality was that was only simulated, and not real world at all when quoting gas mileage.
Hp aside, I think it will be taking a bit of wind out of a few ricers sails when trying to talk about Hp in their cars.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - Kool_ZX3 - 08-19-2005
OAC_Sparky,Aug 18 2005, 10:41 AM Wrote:Oscar The Grouch,Aug 18 2005, 07:43 AM Wrote:Detroit News anti-domestic??? Don't you mean anti-import? BTW I'm in North Bay...No, I mean anti-domestic.
Edit:Â I just browsed through some of the newer headlines in their auto section and most seem to favor Domestics over Imports.
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Articles have only been favorable lately because domestics have gotten better (relatively).
Wasn't a year ago when Bill Ford couldn't fart without getting crucified.
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Here Here, the detroit news is a bunch of anto domestic morons. What is it everyday on blueoval there is a new detroit news article where thier dissing the domestics and praising the imports for just about everything. They would probably diss ford next week for a silver colour on the camry that looks better then the silver color on the fusion :lol:
Asians Oversell Horsepower - FociPhil - 08-19-2005
ANTHONYD,Aug 18 2005, 01:37 PM Wrote:I know Hyundai got into hot water with the release of the tibby.
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What happened with the Tiburon?
Asians Oversell Horsepower - Aka - 08-19-2005
FociPhil,Aug 18 2005, 03:40 PM Wrote:I was wondering the same thingANTHONYD,Aug 18 2005, 01:37 PM Wrote:I know Hyundai got into hot water with the release of the tibby.
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What happened with the Tiburon?
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Asians Oversell Horsepower - 2001 ZTS - 08-19-2005
About two years ago Hyundai admitted all there vehicles had overated HP estimates. I believe for teh Tiburon the manufacturers estimate was 15-20HP more than it actually was. They gave owners a 'credit' for the mistake.
Asians Oversell Horsepower - ANTHONYD - 08-19-2005
2001 ZTS,Aug 18 2005, 03:50 PM Wrote:About two years ago Hyundai admitted all there vehicles had overated HP estimates. I believe for teh Tiburon the manufacturers estimate was 15-20HP more than it actually was. They gave owners a 'credit' for the mistake.A credit.... like what? new lugnuts? :lol:
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Asians Oversell Horsepower - Kelowna_Focus - 08-19-2005
bigger windows? those are scary.