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Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - ZX3_2NV - 01-30-2009

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Fans of Ford's American SVT and European ST and RS models will have plenty to look forward to in the next few years. As part of the company's One Ford program to consolidate its platforms and designs, SVT and TeamRS have been brought together under a single organization led by Jost Capito. Earlier this week, we sat down for lunch with Jamal Hameedi and Hermann Salenbauch to discuss what is going on and what we can expect to see in the next few years. Hameedi is the Chief Nameplate Engineer at SVT and Salenbauch is the director of Advanced Product Creation and Performance Vehicles. We've already seen some of their handiwork in the form of the 2010 Shelby GT500 and F-150 SVT Raptor, but we'll come back to those in a bit.

We already know we'll be getting a new Focus in laet 2010 or early 2011 that's common with the Euro model we've been craving for years. Naturally, the question of the new Focus RS came up. While no one would commit to anything, there were plenty of smiles to go around and Hameedi and Salenbauch were more than willing to talk enthusiastically about the new sports hatch that is launching right now in Europe. Continue reading after the jump.


If what we've been told is anywhere close to true, the Focus RS will take the likes of the Volkswagen R32 and Subaru WRX and kick them into the ditch. Even though the hatch's 300 horses pump through the front wheels exclusively, the Focus reportedly handles much more like a rear-driver with a back end that's easy to kick into a drift. It appears we'll be getting an opportunity to try out the Focus RS firsthand this summer as Ford is bringing over a sampling of its European wares for select U.S. media to try out.

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While it remains to be seen what performance variants of the Fiesta, Focus and Fusion the U.S. will get, there are two SVT products that are arriving this year: the 2010 Shelby GT500 and F-150 Raptor. The 2010 Shelby GT500 has been the subject of much debate in the comments here on Autoblog. Two particular elements of the car elicit a lot of controversy, the engine block and the rear axle.

The continued use of a cast iron block has led to some consternation because of its extra mass compared to an all-aluminum block. Hameedi explained that there were a number of reasons for sticking with iron. The most obvious is that the aluminum block from the Ford GT used a dry sump system and different starter, and these posed packaging issues in the Mustang. They could obviously be overcome if the desire (and money) was there.

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However, he also explained that over half of GT500 owners have modded their cars in some way. The existing aluminum block can withstand the stresses of 540 hp and 500 lb-ft of torque, but the iron block has much more headroom for even more power without modification. Drag racers routinely get 700-800 hp, and even the Shelby Super Snake can produce 725 hp. An aluminum block would have to be significantly beefed to withstand more power than stock, which would negate much of the material weight advantage.

We also discussed the possibility of other new engines in the Mustang, including the rumored 5.0-liter Coyote V8. On that topic, the response was simply "What 5.0-liter V8?" New engines are definitely coming to the Pony for 2011, but no one at Ford is willing to talk about them at this point.

The other new Ford V8 is the 6.2-liter Hurricane going into the F-150 Raptor early next year. In the past, SVT engineers focused on lateral and longitudinal acceleration, producing two generations of SVT Lightning pickups. Like other high performance pickup trucks, these vehicles added power and handling while subtracting much of the utility that makes a truck a truck.

The crew went an entirely different direction this time around by adding in control of the vertical forces. They learned a lot new things creating an off-road truck and ended up with an almost completely new vehicle. The only body panels that the Raptor shares with other F-150 models are its roof and doors, and most of the underpinnings are either all-new or heavily modified

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The SVT team worked with brake engineers at BOSCH on customizing the slip control for the Raptor. In off-road mode, the brakes have more rear bias, allowing the driver to steer the truck with the brake pedal, throttle or steering wheel. This author worked on brake control systems for 17 years, and one of the biggest issues was always getting a good stopping distance off-road.

On gravel or loose surfaces, a vehicle can actually stop better if the wheels come closer to locking and allowing a wedge of material to build up in front of the wheel. However, it's really hard for a system to recognize this kind of surface. Automakers' legal teams are generally reluctant to give drivers control of this sort of thing because of the potential for getting in trouble. The Raptor, however, provides options for the driver through the off-road drive modes that adjust the amount of slip allowed, thus improving off-road stopping power.

So whether you like melting the tires in the front, the ones out back, or all four, Ford's reinvigorated SVT team appears to have you covered. We can't wait to try out the Raptor, the new GT500 and the European models this spring and summer.



Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - mo_focus - 01-30-2009

i just hope all this hype is actually for real and we are not going to get some s*** after so many years.

We did get the 99 focus here for 00, but eventhougt it looked the same it was not the same. So with all these talk hopefully Ford is going to bring the real thing and not some cheap imetation.


Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - Focus man. Focus. - 01-31-2009

All I can say is "time will tell". <_<


Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - NOS2Go4Me - 01-31-2009

I'm grabbing some popcorn for this one. The sport compact market is the one to watch, for sure.


Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - Flofocus - 01-31-2009

mo_focus,Jan 29 2009, 10:03 PM Wrote:i just hope all this hype is actually for real
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Quote:All I can say is "time will tell".

Im with ya guys.


Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - ANTHONYD - 01-31-2009

Don't hod your breath. Why would the release a whole whack of cars when they can't sell the ones they've already made?


Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - meford4u - 02-01-2009

ANTHONYD,Jan 30 2009, 12:41 PM Wrote:Don't hod your breath. Why would the release a whole whack of cars when they can't sell the ones they've already made?
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We are selling the ones we make. That's the difference between us and GM/Chrysler.
Ford is holding off swamping the market and having customers order more units as things are slow and we can get the customer his/her unit in 4 weeks or less. So they lay us off more and don't flood the market. Funny how we have gained 2% market share in the last 6 months.


Inside Scoop From Ford Leaders - darkpuppet - 02-01-2009

meford4u,Jan 31 2009, 12:36 PM Wrote:We are selling the ones we make.  That's the difference between us and GM/Chrysler.
Ford is holding off swamping the market and having customers order more units as things are slow and we can get the customer his/her unit in 4 weeks or less.  So they lay us off more and don't flood the market.  Funny how we have gained 2% market share in the last 6 months.
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I think that's the main point... Ford isn't exactly in the same position as GM and Chrysler... I know for a fact that GM had their heads up their collective asses at the VP level... Chrysler has had troubles making product that sells, and Ford seems to have been making positive changes because they were in trouble long before the meltdown.

Maybe being in trouble before the big meltdown is what will save Ford in the long run, since they're already adjusted to the new market. GM and Chrysler will have a much tougher time.