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Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - ZTWsquared - 04-20-2007

I like the idea of integral rear fog and amber turns at the rear of the wagon, so I got a set of Euro tails ...

and although I got the bulb holders, the supplier couldn't provide the connector ... so I have a couple of questions to the Euro experts here (and yes I've searched - googled now for a fricken week and non of the people I emailed in the UK ever got back to me - no wonder their economy is struggling) ... anyway:

Is the Euro wagon connector the same as the hatch and/or sedan Euro tails?

Anybody recognize the connector pictured below - know where I could get them?

Thanks

[Image: Eurotaillightconnect.jpg]

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - Focus man. Focus. - 04-20-2007

Those connections look about the same size as GM Metri-Pak connections. You might be able to get a pack of 10 or 12 single unshielded connections at NAPA for about $5. I would take in the unit and make sure you get the correct size as I believe there are 2 or 3 different ones available. These will not have a cover on them to protect them so you can put some heat shrink over them. Its hard to tell how small those pins are but the ones I am talking about are around 1/8" or so.

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - castone - 04-21-2007

i found my pig tails for my zx3 here they should have the ones your looking for
it'll take some searching

http://www.motorcraft.com/pdf/Wiring_Pigtails_Catalog.pdf

http://www.motorcraft.com/pdf/Wiring_Pigta...ation_Guide.pdf

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - Frost__2001 - 04-21-2007

I Have the same thing on my sedan tails, I could set the whole thing up for you as I made my own connections from OEM Ford wire female ends that fit into place perfectly as I had to hook up my sedan tails and rear fog lights.

all you need is the wiring loom from a wreaked Sedan with the three stage tail lights, (the reason why you need the three stage light wiring from the sedan is so your not having to go thru your stock wiring to look and split from the signel / brake light / parking light as it takes way too long to look for this, and by using the 3 stage wiring it saves you the trouble in the first place) The 3 stage wiring loom is located in the trunk of the sedans so you need to get it at the plug & cut the one wire to the re-defog at the window, & lastly some shrink tubes from crappy tire or part source.

If you want I could set this all up for you in about 20 minutes a side. and as for the rear fog light, it will take a little longer to wire in, but it will only work if you have the European Headlight switch, but I don't know if they are useable in the 2005-2007 model Focus.

Let me know if you want me to do this for you I'm free till tuesday.

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - ZTWsquared - 04-21-2007

castone,Apr 20 2007, 12:19 PM Wrote:i found my pig tails for my zx3 here they should have the ones your looking for
it'll take some searching

http://www.motorcraft.com/pdf/Wiring_Pigtails_Catalog.pdf

http://www.motorcraft.com/pdf/Wiring_Pigta...ation_Guide.pdf
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Thanks for this - great resource.

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - ZTWsquared - 04-21-2007

Thanks for the info Philip and the offer ... the wagon never had 3 stage lighting, even in 2000 / 1, so I wonder if a sedan wiring set would work? And if not, then I guess just use the connector.

In terms of the rear fog I was thinking a relay on the front fog circuit and simply running wire to the rear - the Euro switch for Mk 1 won't fit my car.

Frost__2001,Apr 20 2007, 12:54 PM Wrote:I Have the same thing on my sedan tails, I could set the whole thing up for you as I made my own connections from OEM Ford wire female ends that fit into place perfectly as I had to hook up my sedan tails and rear fog lights.

all you need is the wiring loom from a wreaked Sedan with the three stage tail lights, (the reason why you need the three stage light wiring from the sedan is so your not having to go thru your stock wiring to look and split from the signel / brake light / parking light as it takes way too long to look for this, and by using the 3 stage wiring it saves you the trouble in the first place) The 3 stage wiring loom is located in the trunk of the sedans so you need to get it at the plug & cut the one wire to the re-defog at the window, & lastly some shrink tubes from crappy tire or part source.

If you want I could set this all up for you in about 20 minutes a side. and as for the rear fog light, it will take a little longer to wire in, but it will only work if you have the European Headlight switch, but I don't know if they are useable in the 2005-2007 model Focus.

Let me know if you want me to do this for you I'm free till tuesday.
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Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - Frost__2001 - 04-21-2007

ZTWsquared,Apr 20 2007, 01:16 PM Wrote:Thanks for the info Philip and the offer ... the wagon never had 3 stage lighting, even in 2000 / 1, so I wonder if a sedan wiring set would work? And if not, then I guess just use the connector.

In terms of the rear fog I was thinking a relay on the front fog circuit and simply running wire to the rear - the Euro switch for Mk 1 won't fit my car.

Frost__2001,Apr 20 2007, 12:54 PM Wrote:I Have the same thing on my sedan tails, I could set the whole thing up for you as I made my own connections from OEM Ford wire female ends that fit into place perfectly as I had to hook up my sedan tails and rear fog lights.

all you need is the wiring loom from a wreaked Sedan with the three stage tail lights, (the reason why you need the three stage light wiring from the sedan is so your not having to go thru your stock wiring to look and split from the signel / brake light / parking light as it takes way too long to look for this, and by using the 3 stage wiring it saves you the trouble in the first place) The 3 stage wiring loom is located in the trunk of the sedans so you need to get it at the plug & cut the one wire to the re-defog at the window, & lastly some shrink tubes from crappy tire or part source.

If you want I could set this all up for you in about 20 minutes a side. and as for the rear fog light, it will take a little longer to wire in, but it will only work if you have the European Headlight switch, but I don't know if they are useable in the 2005-2007 model Focus.

Let me know if you want me to do this for you I'm free till tuesday.
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I know the 3 stage set up is not on your wagon or any north american wagon but the wiring loom is iner-changable with all focus models, I did this with a ZX3 already. by going with the sedan rear wiring it saves you all the time figuring out what wire is what, and not having to spend a long time re-wiring, as everything is done already with the 3 stage.

the relay might not be needed, I know when I hooked up the rear fog on my car it was just a matter of plugging in the wire to the plug and then plugging in the headlight switch as it has the extra switch there... the Rear fog is not fused.

[Image: FocusEuropeanHeadlightswitch.jpg]

83a = Rear fog lamps / switched - not fused
83b = Front fog lamps / switched - fused
30 = Power feed for all lamps (e.g. dash, plates, parking lights, interior 'lamp-on' chime) / constant voltage - fused


As for hooking the rear fog up to your front ones it's a good Idea, but it would be annoying to other drivers if you forgot it's hooked up, as both would be on at the same time, unless you got into the habbit of not using your fogs at all unless you hit bad weather.

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - WuNgUnSVT - 03-09-2009

Frost__2001,Apr 20 2007, 02:20 PM Wrote:
ZTWsquared,Apr 20 2007, 01:16 PM Wrote:Thanks for the info Philip and the offer ... the wagon never had 3 stage lighting, even in 2000 / 1, so I wonder if a sedan wiring set would work? And if not, then I guess just use the connector.

In terms of the rear fog I was thinking a relay on the front fog circuit and simply running wire to the rear - the Euro switch for Mk 1 won't fit my car.

Frost__2001,Apr 20 2007, 12:54 PM Wrote:I Have the same thing on my sedan tails, I could set the whole thing up for you as I made my own connections from OEM Ford wire female ends that fit into place perfectly as I had to hook up my sedan tails and rear fog lights.

all you need is the wiring loom from a wreaked Sedan with the three stage tail lights, (the reason why you need the three stage light wiring from the sedan is so your not having to go thru your stock wiring to look and split from the signel / brake light / parking light as it takes way too long to look for this, and by using the 3 stage wiring it saves you the trouble in the first place) The 3 stage wiring loom is located in the trunk of the sedans so you need to get it at the plug & cut the one wire to the re-defog at the window, & lastly some shrink tubes from crappy tire or part source.

If you want I could set this all up for you in about 20 minutes a side. and as for the rear fog light, it will take a little longer to wire in, but it will only work if you have the European Headlight switch, but I don't know if they are useable in the 2005-2007 model Focus.

Let me know if you want me to do this for you I'm free till tuesday.
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I know the 3 stage set up is not on your wagon or any north american wagon but the wiring loom is iner-changable with all focus models, I did this with a ZX3 already. by going with the sedan rear wiring it saves you all the time figuring out what wire is what, and not having to spend a long time re-wiring, as everything is done already with the 3 stage.

the relay might not be needed, I know when I hooked up the rear fog on my car it was just a matter of plugging in the wire to the plug and then plugging in the headlight switch as it has the extra switch there... the Rear fog is not fused.

[Image: FocusEuropeanHeadlightswitch.jpg]

83a = Rear fog lamps / switched - not fused
83b = Front fog lamps / switched - fused
30 = Power feed for all lamps (e.g. dash, plates, parking lights, interior 'lamp-on' chime) / constant voltage - fused


As for hooking the rear fog up to your front ones it's a good Idea, but it would be annoying to other drivers if you forgot it's hooked up, as both would be on at the same time, unless you got into the habbit of not using your fogs at all unless you hit bad weather.
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Hate to revive an old thread, but does anyone know the Euro pin-outs for the headlight levelers and the 'in-and-left' "P" parking output?
Thanks

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - konafocuswrc - 03-10-2009

for the connectors to euro sockets, you can use speaker connectors..

whenver i work on focus(not my focus) to do speaker install, i save those connectors for my personal use(oops, i said personal..)..

connectors from batinc.net is ridiculous..
they want around $24.50 per connector..not $2.45, $24.50..in US$..

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - Frost__2001 - 03-13-2009

i still have to get the motors for my headlights, and hook them up too... same with the city light, I have it currently hooked up to the parking lights, makes it look cool when I turn on the parking lights and the headlights shut off.

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - WuNgUnSVT - 03-13-2009

I went to the wrecking yard, and cut off the harness end of the headlight switch plug, brought it home, and removed the 'pins'...not I have extra to use on MY harness plug for the levelers, parking lights and rear fog...

But I'm still trying to find out which pins I have to use exactly...



Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - Frost__2001 - 03-13-2009

if you have the OEM european headlight switch then you'll have them already there, same with the american version on the older models, because they changed the dial, if your using the american switch I don't know how you'd be able to use the city light or rear fog as the dial pushes in and pulls out twice for the fogs, (or once for the rear fog if you have a european base switch that is)

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - WuNgUnSVT - 03-14-2009

Frost__2001,Mar 13 2009, 09:54 AM Wrote:if you have the OEM european headlight switch then you'll have them already there, same with the american version on the older models, because they changed the dial, if your using the american switch I don't know how you'd be able to use the city light or rear fog as the dial pushes in and pulls out twice for the fogs, (or once for the rear fog if you have a european base switch that is)
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Yes, it's the Euro switch, of course!
:)

Euro Lights (again!) - Euro Experts Pls Look - WuNgUnSVT - 04-16-2009

Anyone know which pinout on the Euro switch is for the 'P' parking lights and the headlight levelers?
I've metered all the pins, but I'm not reading anything.