Aka,Jun 4 2006, 12:13 AM Wrote:Setup operation, you mean they were targeting another country perhaps?

Didn't the news stories say they had Southern Ontario targets?

Maybe they don't like the new Priminister?
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NefCanuck,Jun 5 2006, 12:00 AM Wrote:What I wonder about is how long after they bought that insane amount of ammonium nitrate did they come under surveilance?  [right][snapback]191331[/snapback][/right]

Reuters News Service Wrote:OTTAWA (Reuters) - Qayyum Abdul Jamal, the eldest of the 17 men arrested in Canada's home-grown terror case, was an unimpressive "idiot" who alleged Canadian troops were in Afghanistan to rape Muslim women, a local legislator said on Monday.

Jamal, 43, was charged on Monday with planning to cause a deadly explosion and could face life in prison if found guilty. He was a volunteer at the Ar-Rahman Islamic Center in Mississauga, Ontario, west of Toronto, and sometimes lectured there.

Wajid Khan, the Liberal legislator for the local parliamentary constituency, said he had been invited to speak at the center about a year ago.

Jamal, who was leading the prayers that day, was supposed to make brief comments introducing Khan to the congregation.

"He said they (the Canadian troops) are in Afghanistan to rape Muslim women," Khan told Reuters by telephone from Mississauga.

"I just got up right away and I pushed him aside and started to address the crowd and criticized him for talking nonsense. People agreed with me, that this was bulls***."

At the time of the incident, Canada had a large contingent of troops in the Afghan capital Kabul. There are now 2,300 Canadian soldiers in the southern city of Kandahar.

Khan said he had been told that angry members of the congregation later confronted Jamal outside the center and "kind of roughed him up" to show their displeasure.

"I just figured he was another one of the disgruntled Canadians who is not happy with troops being in Afghanistan. Half the country didn't like the idea, so I thought that this is just an idiot trying to be a hero," he said.

Khan told Reuters he had had nothing more to do with the center or Jamal.
"Then I saw his picture in the news and his name and (I thought) 'holy cow' and then all hell broke loose."

Members of the congregation told local media that Jamal had been a mentor figure to several teenagers who are also among the accused, something Khan said he found hard to grasp.

"It's very disturbing. I'm struggling with the whole of the idea of how the hell that this guy -- who is very ordinary ... he's not a fiery speaker, his command of the language is piss-poor: is he really the guy who has brainwashed these other teenagers or he is just a contact guy?" he said.

darkpuppet,Jun 6 2006, 09:42 AM Wrote:what concerns me aren't these easy to catch ones, but the harder to catch and possibly intelligent terrorists.
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ZTWsquared,Jun 6 2006, 09:57 AM Wrote:Let's hope the intelligent ones in this country have a better grasp of what's going on (Cdn troops aren't raping Muslims) and have the skills to voice their opinions without violence.

What concerns me about that story is the possibility/probability that moderate Muslims must have known about this guy and his activities. On the other hand perhaps that's how the RCMP and CSIS were on to them so early in the game.

I think that's key .... moderate Muslims have to know and believe it's in their best interests to make sure nothing like what was planned ever comes to fruition.
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