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It's no suprise as Ford's Mercury and Lincoln brands have been gaing ground on Toyota, and Honda for the last 3 years, same with GM with Buick, Caddilac, & Saturn.
but reality is with all the studies to prove that a Domestic brand is better in quality is nothing with people still thinking negitively about all domestic brands as crappy & unreliable.
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you're 100% correct Frost..that's why I see it as even more important to post information in the positive. Everyone can't stop thinking negatively about the NA brands, and really, that needs to stop.
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This is obviously fantastic news for Ford ... but to put things into perspective it won't really mean much if the vehicles don't maintain this level of quality over the typical ownership period ... don't forget - this study is for initial quality only - basically the first 3 months.
Where Toyota has earned its reputation is over the long haul - a quality design and a quality build that results in fewer TGWs over a long period and the consequent increased resale value.
I'm not saying this isn't a great start for Ford - it is ... but the domestics still have a way to go before they can earn the kind of reputation Toyota's earned over the past 15-20 years.
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Frost__2001,Aug 19 2007, 12:51 PM Wrote:It's no suprise as Ford's Mercury and Lincoln brands have been gaing ground on Toyota, and Honda for the last 3 years, same with GM with Buick, Caddilac, & Saturn.
but reality is with all the studies to prove that a Domestic brand is better in quality is nothing with people still thinking negitively about all domestic brands as crappy & unreliable.
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Initial quality is virtually useless information. How long it lasts is what matters and I guarantee that a Toyota wil far outlast a Ford.
BTW I'll never own a Toyota. I bleed Ford blue.
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bluetoy,Aug 21 2007, 08:24 AM Wrote:Initial quality is virtually useless information. How long it lasts is what matters and I guarantee that a Toyota wil far outlast a Ford.
BTW I'll never own a Toyota. I bleed Ford blue.
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I dont really care much about initial quality. Sure small problems with a new car will be annoying. But the real deal is long term reliability. ANd yeah, NA cars have a bad track record there.
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