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Flofocus,Jun 13 2006, 01:55 PM Wrote:

darkpuppet,Jun 13 2006, 11:40 AM Wrote:What we're doing in afghanistan is good work...
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VERY good work, we should all be very proud of the work and success the Canadian military has had over there.

And NOS, its much more than hunting down the Taliban. Your not there, you have no clue what these guys are doing, so I suggest to keep the "Canada is USA 's bitch" talk down lo. I know a few of my freinds would be steaming mad if they read what you wrote.

They aint there to clean up GW's mess, they're theyre to give Afganis peace and the same quality of life we have.

If they thought they were cleaning up GW's mess, they wouldnt be volunteering for a 2nd tour. ;)
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You can suggest all you like, but I have yet after almost 5 years to read the headlines "Afghanis have peace, peacekeepers come home" in the newspapers.

Make no mistake, I support our troops. They deserve real equipment, real training and real leadership. What they don't deserve is to be spread too thin, to be over-run and to be put in a situation where they might not come home... and by that I mean a situation where they're actually battling the majority of the populace, not a few ragtag asshat terrorists.

The fact they're volunteering for second tours is commendable, but I really hope they achieve the last effect that they envision in their minds. Sadly, I don't see it happening. It's a very lawless world over there, and when the time comes that all the soldiers go home... it's an instant vacuum. Either another developed country will have to send their army, the UN gets involved (which brings us back anyways), or there's a mass exodus as all the decent Afghanis storm out of the country and immigrate to whatever nation will take them. By and large, that'll be a few countries in the EU, the US and Canada.

By being there, we're delaying the inevitable. Is that what you want your buddies doing? Being out on an extended tour and then back out again because they hope it'll work out? Or back at home, ready to deal with the next real threat.

It's commendable to want to give them a better life, but what about the others there that don't want their countrymen to have a better life? What about the ones that abhor a democracy? They aren't going away because we ask them to. Besides, all "intelligence" reports indicate Bin Laden's in Afghanistan and noone has found him.

Iran will be the next flashpoint the way the US keeps going. And if Iran is provoked, it'lll be a war that makes Iraq look like a police action. And when we're really needed to help keep Iran in check... we'll have nothing left to give, because we ran ourselves out in Afghanistan, chasing ghosts.

Oh, and I almost forgot. Harper isn't s***. He rolled over on the softwood dispute, in a move that made even US analysts shake their heads. We gave the US softwood lobby groups 2 Billion dollars to go after us with even when all signs said that we had been unfairly treated and we were about to get ALL the softwood tariffs back. Way to go Harper. I'm sure it was worth $2 Billion dollars of our softwood industry's own revenue to go stand on a Mexican pyramid with Bush and Vincente Fox. :rolleyes:

You'll never see an assertive Canadian economic policy that benefits Canadians so long as Harper panders to Bush. Even Mulroney stood his ground and helped pen NAFTA. Harper's a lieutenant, nothing more.