07-24-2006, 10:35 AM
Meford,
i can see that side of it aswell, i just do not understand why for would go after the companies that help support the product in such a way.
I'm sure most Mustang companies would be happy to work with Ford if Ford came directly to them... it just seems like this is a bit of a knee-jerk reaction by Ford in the wake of continuing slump of the company... a potential cash grab if you will.
Actually you would be surprized at what people will pay for if they find that they can factor it into the original purchase price... look at the old LX Mustangs, cheap car with a nice engine upgrade direct from the factory...
people were more than happy to pay for that upgrade because they could factor it into the cost of the right off the showroom floor.
one of the reasons why a lot of people cannot or wont get into a PW or any other FI kit is because it's not easy to pick up a small loan. it's harder for people to add an additional loan for $3k+ to the monthly bills then it is to add $3k+ to something they needed to pay for anyway. granted it would end up costing about the same in the end, people just seem to think that way. I get countless inquiries about if i do Financing or payment plans, as soon as i suggest going to the bank, people just sorta vanish even though a small loan or Line-of-credit would offer a much more favorable interest rate than any Unsecured loan i could provide through an independant finance company.
why do you think that is?
imho, it's an issue with instant gratifactions, which is why i'm trying to work with some of the local dealers to offer PW kits as an upgrade direct off the showroom floor. it's harder to convince the dealership than it is the customer oddly enough.
horsefeathers or not, why is it Ford decided to do this after all these years? if they were really so concerned about copywrite on the nameplate, wouldn't you think they would have been all over those companies decades ago if it was such a big issue? it's not like these companies in the last couple of years...
either way, Ford still hasn't figured out the market and i doubt they ever will.
maybe a 5sec focus doesn't mean anything to you and the others that work for the company, but those are the sorts of things that many perspective buyers look at. maybe not the majority of Focus owners considering i seem to see more people 35+ driving focus' than the younger crowd. BUT those that do care about the 5sec focus are the ones who would buy that RS engine/trans upgrade, an RS or a factory Turbo focus...
it's a bit of a moot point really as all we are doing is speculating on both sides. i think we all know Ford isn't going to do a damn thing to make the product better, they are just going to rebadge it and try and start off with a fresh model name when it's the brand they should be working on...
i can see that side of it aswell, i just do not understand why for would go after the companies that help support the product in such a way.
I'm sure most Mustang companies would be happy to work with Ford if Ford came directly to them... it just seems like this is a bit of a knee-jerk reaction by Ford in the wake of continuing slump of the company... a potential cash grab if you will.
Actually you would be surprized at what people will pay for if they find that they can factor it into the original purchase price... look at the old LX Mustangs, cheap car with a nice engine upgrade direct from the factory...
people were more than happy to pay for that upgrade because they could factor it into the cost of the right off the showroom floor.
one of the reasons why a lot of people cannot or wont get into a PW or any other FI kit is because it's not easy to pick up a small loan. it's harder for people to add an additional loan for $3k+ to the monthly bills then it is to add $3k+ to something they needed to pay for anyway. granted it would end up costing about the same in the end, people just seem to think that way. I get countless inquiries about if i do Financing or payment plans, as soon as i suggest going to the bank, people just sorta vanish even though a small loan or Line-of-credit would offer a much more favorable interest rate than any Unsecured loan i could provide through an independant finance company.
why do you think that is?
imho, it's an issue with instant gratifactions, which is why i'm trying to work with some of the local dealers to offer PW kits as an upgrade direct off the showroom floor. it's harder to convince the dealership than it is the customer oddly enough.
horsefeathers or not, why is it Ford decided to do this after all these years? if they were really so concerned about copywrite on the nameplate, wouldn't you think they would have been all over those companies decades ago if it was such a big issue? it's not like these companies in the last couple of years...
either way, Ford still hasn't figured out the market and i doubt they ever will.
maybe a 5sec focus doesn't mean anything to you and the others that work for the company, but those are the sorts of things that many perspective buyers look at. maybe not the majority of Focus owners considering i seem to see more people 35+ driving focus' than the younger crowd. BUT those that do care about the 5sec focus are the ones who would buy that RS engine/trans upgrade, an RS or a factory Turbo focus...
it's a bit of a moot point really as all we are doing is speculating on both sides. i think we all know Ford isn't going to do a damn thing to make the product better, they are just going to rebadge it and try and start off with a fresh model name when it's the brand they should be working on...