[OAC_Sparky]

bluetoy,Oct 25 2006, 06:23 AM Wrote:Only a few of us realize that the insane amounts of money being paid (including benefits etc) to CAW/UAW workers IS a large contributor to the financial crisis facing NA automakers.[right][snapback]213269[/snapback][/right]

If that were the case then Toyota Canada would be facing the same problem. The only difference is pension obligations. This wouldn't be an issue if Ford kept its pensions funded at 100% instead of much lower than that.

So, insane amounts of money. We've already established that electricians outside of Ford make just as much as the ones inside. Even the benefits (through the IBEW) are on par.

We've already demonstrated that painters at Ford are more productive than those outside.

So what's the rub? Because you undervalue the labour? Easy since you can't do my job.

See, it's precisely your attitude that shows why we need a union. Because there are idiots with your attitude in management (usually those ones that can't organize a piss-up in a brewery) that think that we should all be making minimum wage.

I'd love to see you on the line for a week. Pay you $15 an hour, and watch the crying begin.

That's all I'm going to say.

Unless I need to counter another idiotic point. :rolleyes: