Hi, Guest
12-23-2004, 12:07 AM
And what I think Bluetoy is getting at, as well as others, is that at least with a 91-94 octane dependency you can drive most of the way across Canada without issues, provided you're put together and tuned properly.
Good luck buying C16 from Canadian Tire or PetroCanada.
To me, and I've been around racing in MANY forms in my life, a car/truck that depends on race-level octane in order to make its power daily is a special-purpose vehicle and nothing more. Unless you're lugging 200 gallons of C16 with you as you drive long-distance, it's not practical. Which means it's not practical to begin with. Pick another car as a daily driver.
Tom did say that he makes super power on 94 octane. I'd be shooting for a 91-based tune, but hey... at least 94 is available at some pumps in Ontario. 94 Octane does NOT a dyno queen make, but it does handicap you for gas station choices, and that's not a decision I'd like to have to make when running on vapours.
I think you need to step back a tad from your VTEC-fuelled world and understand that not everyone wants/can afford race gas for a daily driver, nor do they want the inconvenience of such. Just because a bunch of gearheads / riceboys on Honda Tech swear by C16-fuelled cars as daily drivers doesn't mean that they're all automatically excluded from the "dyno queen" definition.
Technically, my truck is a "dyno queen", because all the moving it has done in the last 6 months is up and down the driveway, and on to the back of a flatbed. Until it gets seasonal insurance, it's nothing more than a toy. The exact same, in other words, as vehicles dependent on exotic fuels in order to make it from point A to point B.
W3rd.
Good luck buying C16 from Canadian Tire or PetroCanada.
To me, and I've been around racing in MANY forms in my life, a car/truck that depends on race-level octane in order to make its power daily is a special-purpose vehicle and nothing more. Unless you're lugging 200 gallons of C16 with you as you drive long-distance, it's not practical. Which means it's not practical to begin with. Pick another car as a daily driver.
Tom did say that he makes super power on 94 octane. I'd be shooting for a 91-based tune, but hey... at least 94 is available at some pumps in Ontario. 94 Octane does NOT a dyno queen make, but it does handicap you for gas station choices, and that's not a decision I'd like to have to make when running on vapours.
I think you need to step back a tad from your VTEC-fuelled world and understand that not everyone wants/can afford race gas for a daily driver, nor do they want the inconvenience of such. Just because a bunch of gearheads / riceboys on Honda Tech swear by C16-fuelled cars as daily drivers doesn't mean that they're all automatically excluded from the "dyno queen" definition.
Technically, my truck is a "dyno queen", because all the moving it has done in the last 6 months is up and down the driveway, and on to the back of a flatbed. Until it gets seasonal insurance, it's nothing more than a toy. The exact same, in other words, as vehicles dependent on exotic fuels in order to make it from point A to point B.
W3rd.
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33" BFG Mud-Terrain KM2s, lots of Rough Country gear - bumper, 2.5" lift, swaybar disconnects, Superwinch 10,000lb winch, Detroit Locker in rear D44 axle, custom exhaust, K+N filtercharger, Superchips-tuned.
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33" BFG Mud-Terrain KM2s, lots of Rough Country gear - bumper, 2.5" lift, swaybar disconnects, Superwinch 10,000lb winch, Detroit Locker in rear D44 axle, custom exhaust, K+N filtercharger, Superchips-tuned.
Daily driver 2: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT
COBB Stage 1+ package - AccessPort tuner, COBB intake and airbox. Stage 2 coming shortly - COBB 3" AT stainless DP and race cat, custom 3" Magnaflow-based exhaust and Stage 2 COBB tune.