[Jays2000ZX3]

NOS2Go4Me,Dec 22 2004, 09:07 AM Wrote:And what I think Bluetoy is getting at, as well as others, is that at least with a 91-94 octane dependency you can drive most of the way across Canada without issues, provided you're put together and tuned properly.

Good luck buying C16 from Canadian Tire or PetroCanada.

To me, and I've been around racing in MANY forms in my life, a car/truck that depends on race-level octane in order to make its power daily is a special-purpose vehicle and nothing more. Unless you're lugging 200 gallons of C16 with you as you drive long-distance, it's not practical. Which means it's not practical to begin with. Pick another car as a daily driver.

Tom did say that he makes super power on 94 octane. I'd be shooting for a 91-based tune, but hey... at least 94 is available at some pumps in Ontario. 94 Octane does NOT a dyno queen make, but it does handicap you for gas station choices, and that's not a decision I'd like to have to make when running on vapours.

I think you need to step back a tad from your VTEC-fuelled world and understand that not everyone wants/can afford race gas for a daily driver, nor do they want the inconvenience of such. Just because a bunch of gearheads / riceboys on Honda Tech swear by C16-fuelled cars as daily drivers doesn't mean that they're all automatically excluded from the "dyno queen" definition.

Technically, my truck is a "dyno queen", because all the moving it has done in the last 6 months is up and down the driveway, and on to the back of a flatbed. Until it gets seasonal insurance, it's nothing more than a toy. The exact same, in other words, as vehicles dependent on exotic fuels in order to make it from point A to point B.

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Listen, I'm getting sick and tired of your comments about other cars other the Focus/Ford. There is life after/other then Ford, you don't like it, fine, but don't call someone who's car is worth more then your house, and it's all in the motor, a riceboy. Just because 90% of Civics out there are ghetto doesn't mean that all of them are. You have to come to realize one day that there are some SICK honda's out there.

Anyways.

The argument here is not Daily driver..it's DYNO QUEEN. If Tom makes 350whp on 110octane, but makes 280whp on 94 Octane and 240 on 91 Octane...he can still drive accross the country, change the program in the chip for 91 Octane, drive 2000miles to the track with 240whp, change it to 110 Octane program and fill it with 110 octane at the track and do his runs with 350whp and drive back home on 91 octane...

I still don't see how this is a Dyno queen. A Dyno Queen would not be able to RUN anywhere out of the shop let alone on different Octane Gas.

He even said he's filled up with 87 Octane to get back home before....how the hell is this a DYNO QUEEN?

How can anyone honestly argu against the above statements?

BTW, I think it's weird that I am defending Tom..lol