[naz]

darkpuppet,Jan 24 2008, 01:52 PM Wrote:Well -- as far as the job issue goes, I'm not too concerned.. it would have been better if I stayed on as I'm sure I would have gotten the team lead position.  That's where the timing thing comes in...

and that's sort of the frustrating bit.  It's annoying to see people succeed despite utter incompetence.  I got stuck under such leadership before and I bailed to the left. 

The only problem with shifting jobs is rebuilding the reputation you had before.  Unfortunately, I have more sway in other groups than I do in my own. 

I would probably go back to the project, but I would push to go in as a Subject Matter Expert rather than a resource...  It would just be annoying having to deal with the new team lead.

And yes, Naz, I admit, I'm not as flirty or good looking as this girl is... my mistake with dealing with her was stepping on her toes in the project -- 'cause she started the gossip train going and I wasn't around to defend myself -- and she has friends in powerful places within the group.  It's hard for the unknown new guy in the group to defend against that.

But that's corporate politics.  I've made progress in playing the game better this year, but I really dislike the game..
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random of topic Q: where is the bulk of your firms revenue stream? is it in software sales or service sales? i'd figure that out and make an end run straight to where the loot is at. its almost always way more fun to be at a revenue center than a cost center

back on topic... that sucks man. politics is a crap game.. but if there's politics in the office you either get good at it, leave for a new office, or get sh1t on forever. if you really dislike it i recommend that you leave for a new work environment. you aren't going to change it all by yourself, no one is immune to it. sucks but that's sorta how it is =(

the thing about being a 'team lead' is that you never know how it plays out until you are there. hard to say if you are better or worse off not getting that role.. does the team lead role have more $$ (or potential $$ later) associated with it? if not i wouldn't even sweat it..

also, even if you had stayed on the team with her, you still might not have gotten the job.. not trying to rag on you or anything.. but if the office has politics you never know how the decision would have gone down... flirty/good looking girl in software environment gets a lot of bonus points.... its almost better that you were not in direct competition

i really feel like you made that decision to bail for a reason and you shouldn't worry about it and focus on how you can chase more $ going forward... again i tihnk your next play depends on how you want to deal with the politics (get good at it, leave for a new office, or get sh1t on)

wihtout knowing anything else about a situation, i recommend leaving. its hard to learn politics and its not something that is satisfying to get good at if you aren't born liking it or being good at it