[scoobasteve]

Bah.... theres a difference between old and new orion.

Old orion kicked ass... big powerful amps. not flashy at all, built in the usa.

since they got bought by dei. its all about making the product appealing, at the expense of quality


If i have my way. I'll be selling my viper D2500.1 and getting a couple old orion
HCCA275G4's

old competition amps, they take a beating and never get hot.

Rated 150x2 @ 4 ohms. but they can be bridged safley to .5 ohms where they put out well over 2000w

The only advantage new orion has over old orion stuff is the connectors. The connectors on the old orion amps were junk, but i guess not too many people in the 90's were running 0 gage cable.

I'm very picky with my car audio. i wont touch any of the futureshop brands anymore... Pioneer, Kenwood, Sony. bleh, boring stuff. its nice to see them carrying higher end stuff now. Eclipse, Fosgate, and rumor has it that they'll start carrying alpine.

My personal favorites are

Alpine
Focal
AVI
Adire
Resonant Engineering
Elemental Designs
Boston Acoustics
CDT
Memphis
Seas
Resonant Engineering
MB quart
Rainbow
DLS
Image Dynamics
Old Rockford Fosgate
Old Orion


I'd much rather have a system that sounds good that nobodys heard of. than a brand that everybody has.