Hi, Guest
06-19-2004, 01:27 AM
p-51, those arms are just buttery looking...
not to bash FC, or anything, but I agree with Rob.. there are far too many companies that are just out there to sell things. It's like all these speed shops out there. It doesn't take knowledge or skill to be successful in this business. People's ignorance and slavery to fashion will sell for you... and I spend far too much time as a consumer trying to find competent shops and manufacturers. And that's sad considering all the 'experts' out there.
People say that they do the best they can considering they have no engineering budget..and that's just the worst excuse you can come up with. In the bike industry some of the best bikes to come out have come from 'cardboard engineering'. Can't figure out why the rear shock is too soft? take a piece of cardboard, and trace the suspension travel arch on it to see if the leverage ratio rises too quickly. Seems to work in other industries as well for most simple design tweeks.
Simple things like that and a bit of common sense goes a long way to make an affordable product that is both useful and reliable.
People speak of tip-in issues with the FC throttlebody all the time, and after how many revisions, it's still the same cam on there? is that really listening to customer suggestions? I'll give them credit for standing behind the exhausts and cracked welds, but you have to believe there's a better way than waiting for people to return their stuff to you... to me, as a customer, it would infuriate me. It gives the impression that they'll only fix parts if they stand to lose enough money from it. People can't return their throttlebodies because they hurt driveability, can they. And a refund short of covering shipping and handling doesn't count in my books.
I will always be willing to spend a little extra on a part that is properly engineered and accepted to work... I won't buy on company's claims alone, and with the hit-or-miss impression I get from lots of people out there, I just can't make myself cough up the money to even try FC components (even though I would love to).
not to bash FC, or anything, but I agree with Rob.. there are far too many companies that are just out there to sell things. It's like all these speed shops out there. It doesn't take knowledge or skill to be successful in this business. People's ignorance and slavery to fashion will sell for you... and I spend far too much time as a consumer trying to find competent shops and manufacturers. And that's sad considering all the 'experts' out there.
People say that they do the best they can considering they have no engineering budget..and that's just the worst excuse you can come up with. In the bike industry some of the best bikes to come out have come from 'cardboard engineering'. Can't figure out why the rear shock is too soft? take a piece of cardboard, and trace the suspension travel arch on it to see if the leverage ratio rises too quickly. Seems to work in other industries as well for most simple design tweeks.
Simple things like that and a bit of common sense goes a long way to make an affordable product that is both useful and reliable.
People speak of tip-in issues with the FC throttlebody all the time, and after how many revisions, it's still the same cam on there? is that really listening to customer suggestions? I'll give them credit for standing behind the exhausts and cracked welds, but you have to believe there's a better way than waiting for people to return their stuff to you... to me, as a customer, it would infuriate me. It gives the impression that they'll only fix parts if they stand to lose enough money from it. People can't return their throttlebodies because they hurt driveability, can they. And a refund short of covering shipping and handling doesn't count in my books.
I will always be willing to spend a little extra on a part that is properly engineered and accepted to work... I won't buy on company's claims alone, and with the hit-or-miss impression I get from lots of people out there, I just can't make myself cough up the money to even try FC components (even though I would love to).
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