Hi, Guest
10-22-2005, 03:53 AM
IMO the Bush regime lied about the actual goal of the war ... it was not WMD.
IMO it was in fact regime change; Saddam is out and a new, U.S. friendly regime installed, and so from that perspective the war has in fact already been "won" from an American POV.
It's the aftermath of the American "victory" that is untenable. IMO the Americans will never rid Irag of the so-called insurgents because there are simply too many and they are too integrated into every day society there.
Plus there are too many different agendas, religous, political and otherwise, that make it virtually impossible to create a unified Irag at peace --- at least not using methods that the world will agree to.
The fact is that the Americans will have to leave sometime because a token show of force will be useless and they can't afford a major presence there forever. I think the inevitable outcome of that will be significant social upheaval and quite likely civil war.
In any event, it seems clear to me that Irag as we've known it in the past quarter century will never exist again.
IMO it was in fact regime change; Saddam is out and a new, U.S. friendly regime installed, and so from that perspective the war has in fact already been "won" from an American POV.
It's the aftermath of the American "victory" that is untenable. IMO the Americans will never rid Irag of the so-called insurgents because there are simply too many and they are too integrated into every day society there.
Plus there are too many different agendas, religous, political and otherwise, that make it virtually impossible to create a unified Irag at peace --- at least not using methods that the world will agree to.
The fact is that the Americans will have to leave sometime because a token show of force will be useless and they can't afford a major presence there forever. I think the inevitable outcome of that will be significant social upheaval and quite likely civil war.
In any event, it seems clear to me that Irag as we've known it in the past quarter century will never exist again.
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