[darkpuppet]

Oscar The Grouch,Mar 24 2006, 10:50 AM Wrote:

darkpuppet,Mar 24 2006, 11:19 AM Wrote:- marriage is for creating children, to not do so is a sin.

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Arg. Again, puppet I HAVE NO PROBLEM AGAINST GAY PEOPLE, no immoral issues or noghting.

However, if you're gay, you can't have children naturally. Therefore indirectly, gay marriage produces a sin.
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it's an old doctrine that the church doesn't really follow any longer, it was something that brought up an old teaching from Constantine and/or some other historical figure. It's to illustrate the point that the church changes.

They accept childrenless marriages (something enstated that didn't exist in original bible text)
They accept divorces/annulments (something written in the bible, but good enough to work around in the church's eye)

now connect that with the homosexual activity not being accepted because it was thought to be immoral. But we know better now, yet the church refuses to acknowledge that.. yet divorces and breaking the lifelong commitment is immoral, yet acceptable.

I'm trying to illustrate the hypocracy in the churche's policies regarding homosexuals, as an illustration that there's no reason they shouldn't be able to adapt their policies, much less affect non-secular law.

in fact, the only reason it's not accepted is because it is considered immoral, and that is the one biggest argument the AFA makes. You cannot accept the church's teachings banning homosexual marriage as immoral if you don't accept the fact that homosexuality is immoral.