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Flofocus,Feb 23 2006, 12:26 PM Wrote:

euro_zx5,Feb 23 2006, 12:25 PM Wrote:

P-51,Feb 23 2006, 10: Wrote:We did a head on with the wall on the 401 at about 110km/h in our 2001 ZTS, and walked away.  Doors even opened.

Now, it wasn't 110 to 0...  We were cruising about 115 when Tina fell asleep.  We fishtailed a few times before hitting, but I don't think we scrubbed much speed.  Hit the wall at a 45 degree angle, and it was rolling parallel to the wall at maybe 20-30km after the impact.  So I'm guessing 100 to 30 worth of energy was absorbed.

It was hard enough that our suitcases in the trunk bent the rear seatback forward.

The Focsu is a pretty safe car.  I know the WRX is even better.  But, it's too bad they don't have stability control on the Subbies.

Whever we go on a long trip, we feel safer in the ZTW with Advance Trac.
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I really don't like subbies much... for many reasons, mainly being way overpriced... but their awd is far superior to the Focus' trac control... by far. Subaru's are expensive because they know people love their control and won't think twice about paying the difference between competitors.

I agree though, I like the trac control in some snowy situations, even sandy roads... but only for straight aways, if i'm pulling really hard turns the trac control isn't quick enough, or maybe the tires are just pure crap... that I haven't figured out yet.

I don't really like this idea very much, the jaws of life arent very useful anymore, now are they? You've always gotta leave that "what if" in there, considering that an accident worse than ever expected could happen, then what? They'll have to pull ya out the side windows and risk your life (possible becoming paralyzed)... that's not the best idea. It's not a rally car on the road, why build it as strong as one? Even sports cars aren't built that tough, c'mon now...
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:lol:

Subies overpriced?

Porbably some of the best bang for your buck in performance, safety, and reliability, especially if your looking at used ones...

I know in quebec (they love their subbies) you can pick up a 2002 WRX with 80-90K on it for under 17K. What other car are you gonna get for that with the safety, 227Hp, Turbo, AWD for that kind of money? ;)

Dont say audi A4, Im talking a real sports sedan, not something with 180Hp :rolleyes:
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Hmmm... i may have to go to quebec... flo, do you have any links i can check out?