[darkpuppet]

So lately, I've had to drive into the office to work...on the upside, I have a cubicle with a sliding door.

Anyways, I put in a facilities request today saying that it's stuffy and hot.. which it is.. it always is..... it's brutal trying to be comfortable in this hell hole... you're hot, but you're not profusely sweating, you're just oozing. I hate it..

back on track, I submit a facilities request for them to lower the temps.. Budy comes around with a thermometer and notifies me that they shoot for a temperature of 24C?!

coupled with the fact that the diffuser shooting into my cube is innefective, I get to sit here and steam. It gets particularily bad before 9am and after 7pm when the temps seem to climb into the 80's.

The only thing is that the higher temperatures shorten my temper, raise anxiety, and overall just kill my productivity. I really dislike it... but 24C is considered 'room temperature'. that's a balmy 75..

since when did this become defacto standard? I operate best at 65F up to 70.. the extra 5 is telling me it's shorts weather, but here I am wearing long pants and shirts...

the novelty of working at the lab has officially worn off..

[guilty]

I was under the impression that room temperature is 21C.. At least it was when I was in elementary school. Warmer than that does not make a pleasant work environment.. unless they let you wear shorts and wife beaters to the office.

[MAlby7]

I am taking air conditioning and refrigeration in school. When you design a system you design for anywhere between 70 - 75 degrees fahrenheit, depending on the application. What might be happening in your office is poor airflow and the relative humidity might be too high.

With humidity you can have 75 degrees and low humidity and it will feel cool. You could have 75 degrees and high humidity and it will feel like 85 degrees. The more the water your body produces evaporates off your skin the cooler you will ultimately feel.

Unfortunately Women make the design temperature climb to 75 because they're always cold.

[darkpuppet]

women can go buy a freakin' sweater or use a space heater.. I can't strip down any further (without sticking to the chair anyways).

I tell ya, they're keepin' me down man! KEEPIN' ME DOWN!

[dBlast]

We are in those "in between" months where you need AC one day and the heat on the next day.

I swear my office temperature is controlled by how sunny it is. With a south facing window, when it is sunny out my office is stifeling hot and when it's cloudy it is freezing.

I have learned to dress according to the sun/cloud forecast rather than temperature.

[darkpuppet]

yeah..usually the weather switches from 'cold' to 'hot' in week or two.. but it's been like this all month.

It's much cooler out in the hallway crossovers.. I might have to go work from the muskoka room.

[Oscar The Grouch]

Welcome to the sweatshops. I'm sooo glad i have my own office now. No more problems with temps. :D

[ZTWsquared]

darkpuppet,Apr 25 2006, 05:08 PM Wrote:It's much cooler out in the hallway crossovers.. I might have to go work from the muskoka room.
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Just threaten to bring in one of these babies ... might change their minds about what's normal room temp.

[mo_focus]

MAlby7,Apr 25 2006, 08:40 PM Wrote:I am taking air conditioning and refrigeration in school.  When you design a system you design for anywhere between 70 - 75 degrees fahrenheit, depending on the application.  What might be happening in your office is poor airflow and the relative humidity might be too high. 

With humidity you can have 75 degrees and low humidity and it will feel cool.  You could have 75 degrees and high humidity and it will feel like 85 degrees.  The more the water your body produces evaporates off your skin the cooler you will ultimately feel.

Unfortunately Women make the design temperature climb to 75 because they're always cold.
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very well said Mike. Puppet, that was my previous job. I used to be a facility manager/operations manager. So let me tell you some tricks of the trade

Ashre standards are between 70 to 75F or 21 to 24C, it all depends on where you work. Unfortunatly most office places are full of women and as mike said, women make the design temp climb over 75F. Guys usually don't complain about temps, women do. So be a man and suck it up ;) j/k

So you ask yourself what can I do?

Well there are couple of things you can do to bring the temperature down.
1- You need to get your manager and everyone else on the floor to agree on a set temp and forward that to your facilities. All should agree on 21C or 72F.
2- Reguest a stuffy complain rather then hot complain. When you are hot they will measure the temp and tell you its within range. If you complain about the stuffy room, they will have to bring more air in to the room and it will cool it off.

Also let me know what kind of HVAC system do you have? Do you have Radiators on each floor? VAV's? FBP? try to find out what you have and i might be able to show you couple of more tricks to get the desired temp you want.


Let me know,

Thanks, Management :)

[naz]

bring in a fan or something.. that might help you out. in the philippines it was always crazy hot and humid.. having a fan in the room didn't make the temps cooler but it sure felt a lot better having the airflow rather than just sitting there and baking

[DD1]

go postal

[focusracer]

Make sure you're manager/supervisor is watching and start doing the head bob, when he bitches to you about being tired at work, tell him it's the damn heat/stuffiness, cool air keeps you awake, why do you think it's ice freakin cold in a casino. I'd rather cold than hot, you can always put on a sweater, you can only take so much off until someone gets upset... or horny... :)

[meford4u]

Try my office and stop the wahwahwah. In the paint booth in the winter it is a perfect (to them) 78 degrees. In the Spring, when it is about 15 outside, it is about 88 in the booth. Come summer it is on average 105 in the booth. They have to keep the heat up to knock the humidity down or arking??? occurs in the overheads for paint.

Welcome to 24-7 South American living. Tropical stlye. Too bad they don't serve the little drinks with them

[darkpuppet]

mo_focus,Apr 25 2006, 06:29 PM Wrote:very well said Mike. Puppet, that was my previous job. I used to be a facility manager/operations manager. So let me tell you some tricks of the trade

Ashre standards are between 70 to 75F or 21 to 24C, it all depends on where you work. Unfortunatly most office places are full of women and as mike said, women make the design temp climb over 75F. Guys usually don't complain about temps, women do. So be a man and suck it up ;) j/k

So you ask yourself what can I do?

Well there are couple of things you can do to bring the temperature down.
1- You need to get your manager and everyone else on the floor to agree on a set temp and forward that to your facilities. All should agree on 21C or 72F.
2- Reguest a stuffy complain rather then hot complain. When you are hot they will measure the temp and tell you its within range. If you complain about the stuffy room, they will have to bring more air in to the room and it will cool it off.

Also let me know what kind of HVAC system do you have? Do you have Radiators on each floor? VAV's? FBP? try to find out what you have and i might be able to show you couple of more tricks to get the desired temp you want.


Let me know,

Thanks, Management :)
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oh, I totally understand what you and Mike are saying... in previous offices, the women always complained about how cold it was in the office... but I learnt to ask for cubicles that were in "cooler" areas of the building. When I was working down on the waterfront last summer, I got a cube directly below an airconditioning vent. It was awesome!

If I had to pick an acronym from your list of HVAC type, I'll pick VAV...I have no clue what it means...

basically, there are diffusers in the suspended ceiling over each cubicle that are fed via a flexible hose that terminates at a main vent. There's a fan back at the main that helps distribute the air.

I complained that it was hot and stuffy, and that's why, even though he wasn't going to do anything about the temperature, he came back with the ladder, checked for obstruction and then went back to the fan to see if it could be adjusted.

It's kind of like going through menapause... I have hot flashes all day long...

[NOS2Go4Me]

darkpuppet,Apr 26 2006, 08:08 AM Wrote:It's kind of like going through menapause... I have hot flashes all day long...
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Tub of Ben and Jerry's, slippers, 12" tv with bunny ears.

When they ask you what the deal is, tell them the environment's stressing your system but you're attempting to recuperate on the job and make an effort of it.

Preferably, this conversation happens with one member of staff that isn't from your department.

Problem solved.

[ANTHONYD]

Go in with no shirt, no Deoderant, shorts, sandals and socks.

They'll lover the temp for you.

Sweaty big guys don't go over well in the corporate world.

[nass]

man my room here is a chilly 68-72 all the time and I find it a tad too cold, there is no carpet in here either and I think that makes it seem somewhat cooler.

I know what you mean Malby about women, few weeks back I had to go to another building to look at some computers, this building is 95% women. The temp in there must have been a good 80-84F I was sweating balls just sitting down and there was still ladies with blankets and space heaters on!!

[darkpuppet]

ANTHONYD,Apr 26 2006, 09:07 AM Wrote:Go in with no shirt, no Deoderant, shorts, sandals and socks.

They'll lover the temp for you.

Sweaty big guys don't go over well in the corporate world.
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actually, I believe there is a guy that does that a few sections down... you can smell it when you walk by :ph34r:

remember, computer geeks.. some of them don't believe in showering or deodorant.