[paulicat]

Yea thats the catch, I'm fairly certain its been disco'd. :(
So what would be a second choice turbo kit then?

[Flofocus]

paulicat,Apr 12 2008, 12:10 PM Wrote:Yea thats the catch, I'm fairly certain its been disco'd. :(
So what would be a second choice turbo kit then?
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I haven't heard much about them, but SPA (check out the engine, forced induction section of http://www.c-f-m.com) looks to make some nice stuff. Lots of stuff like header, waste gate, downpipe, etc to make a diy project very easy, but probably a little more $$.

If I was doing this again and the SPA stuff is good...this would be my shopping list

-The SPA Header
-SPA T3 Turbo, oil feed/return lines.
-SPA uppipe
-Good universal intercooler
-Miscelanious piping (straight, 45, 90 degree bends)
-couplers to match piping, and MAF (if needed)
-SPA Waste gate
-DiabloMaf/SCT MAF/whatever works MAF :P
-42lb injectors
-SCT Xcal or pro racer package
-AF wideband
-Boost guauge (not really needed)
-2.5 Borla exhaust (anything really, borla is my preference)
-Trubendz 2.5 flex pipe
-Good Blow off valve (Bosch, greddy, etc)
-DYNO TUNING <= Important
-You will want to use new gaskets wherever you can.

Then what you do...if you have some downtime ;)

Design your kit...think of what kind of setup you will go with. Blow through or straight through setup. You want to place your MAF in an area where there's very little air restriction, so somehwere straight in the piping...

Bolt everything that can be bolted up. Header, turbo, downpipe...everything that you can and will stay in place.

Mount your intercooler in a good place, make it secure by making some brackets. My intercooler had a welded threaded bung in the middle ontop, and two little flanges welded one each side on the bottom. A friend and I made the brackets with spare metal we had laying around. You can use the frame running under the radiator to secure the bottom of the IC with brackets, we drilled a hole in the middle of the bumper, and bolted another home made bracket to the top of the intercooler. make sure it cant move and is secure as possible.

Then you take your piping and start routing it places where it makes sense (according to the setup you thought of). A little tip, you can use CAI piping, thats what I did for my plumbing from the TB to FMIC. Little cutting, and welding, got what we wanted for cheap. If you dont have a welder, I'm pretty sure they sell these magnets that can hold your piping together, but I may be wrong. You can use the old marker routine by marking how the piping is meeting eachother, but you will need an extra set of hands to make sure nothing is moving and shifting, you want this to be as exact as possible for the welder your bringing it to to get right the 1st time, it gets expensive when you keep fawkin it up. You can use a hawk saw to cut your piping but a good pipe cutting saw makes things go fast. I always look for excuses to buy new tools though. :D

With the shopping list above, all you would really need to design your sefl is the piping form the TB to IC, and IC to turbo.. Depending on blow or straight through, you would need to design a air filter setup also.

Heres some pics of my adventure. :P

[paulicat]

Nice post Flofocus...very nice, thank you!!
I did see the SPA kit on ebay going for about 2 grand including shipping.
As you mentioned, it would need injectors, ic, sct/xcal, maf stuff.
Anyone else hear anything about the SPA partial kits?

Here's the parts list (and image) for the SPA kit, please add in whatever else I'll need (<edit>I have a 2.25 magnaflow catback, so I'm hoping that I don't need a new exhaust).

• SPA Turbo T3 turbocharger
• SPA Turbo exhaust manifold
• SPA Turbo 36mm external wastegate
• SPA Turbo blow off valve
• SPA Turbo adjustable fuel pressure regulator
• Turbo discharge pipe
• Turbo down pipe + oil sensor bung
• Mechanical boost gauge
• Gauge hardware
• Crank acse turbo oil drain
• Down pipe stud
• EPDM elbow hose
• EPDM flexible hose
• Brass fitting 1/8 NPT x 1/4 SAE - straight
• Stainless steel braided hose (oil feed to turbocharger)
• Turbo oil return flange + gasket
• Oil inlet flange + gasket
• 2 1/2" hose clamp
• 5/8" hose clamp
• Fuel clamp
• M10 hex nuts
• Turbocharger clamps
• Gauge mounting cup
• Brass fitting 1/4" hose straight
• Hexagon socket head screw
• Copper nuts
• Manifold studs
• Brass fitting 1/8 NPT x 1/4" SAE 90 degrees
• Adjustable fuel pressure regulator mount
• Wastegate support bracket
• Wastegate braided stainless steel hose
• Engine mount
• Carbon iron reducer
• Air filter
• Turbocharger oil drain hose
• LIFETIME WARRANTY on exhaust manifold

[focusonthis_88]

paulicat,Apr 13 2008, 12:55 AM Wrote:(I have a 2.5 magnaflow catback, so I'm hoping that I don't need a new exhaust).

Where did you get a 2.5 MagnaFlow Cat back?? They only make 2.25.

[paulicat]

Um crap. I thought it was a 2.5?
I'll run out and try to do a quick measure I suppose.

EDIT> Crap, its 2.25, does that mean I'll need a new exhaust as well for a turbo setup??

[focusonthis_88]

paulicat,Apr 13 2008, 02:37 PM Wrote:Um crap. I thought it was a 2.5?
I'll run out and try to do a quick measure I suppose.

EDIT> Crap, its 2.25, does that mean I'll need a new exhaust as well for a turbo setup??
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I have the 2.25 and I need to change to 2.50 or 3.

[paulicat]

When you say "need to change" is it hindering your performance significantly?
Or is it that you just want to get more hp??

[Flofocus]

paulicat,Apr 14 2008, 08:36 AM Wrote:When you say "need to change" is it hindering your performance significantly?
Or is it that you just want to get more hp??
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You dont HAVE to, but it does help get some extra pnoies out of that turbo setup. At the 200 WHP mark, you want min 2.5"

[paulicat]

Ah ok.
Any input for the SPA kit I outlined above??

[Flofocus]

paulicat,Apr 14 2008, 09:36 AM Wrote:Ah ok.
Any input for the SPA kit I outlined above??
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yeah...

whats a Carbon iron reducer? :blink:

And I dont think you need this: Adjustable fuel pressure regulator mount

[paulicat]

Heh, good question, I've never heard of it before either, and you're right, no fuel pressure regulator needed.
So from that list, see anything else I might need (besides a better understanding of turbo's :D)

[ZTWsquared]

paulicat,Apr 13 2008, 02:37 PM Wrote:Um crap. I thought it was a 2.5?
I'll run out and try to do a quick measure I suppose.

EDIT> Crap, its 2.25, does that mean I'll need a new exhaust as well for a turbo setup??
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MBRP now makes a 2.5 for Focus IIRC - NOS2GO4ME helped MBRP in its development ... also: I sent you a PM couple days ago.

[paulicat]

Thanks ZTWsquared I did read it. I've just been mulling ideas like crazy, just haven't decided anything yet.

[ZTWsquared]

paulicat,Apr 14 2008, 10:31 AM Wrote:Thanks ZTWsquared I did read it. I've just been mulling ideas like crazy, just haven't decided anything yet.
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Kewl ... good luck with the decision-making ... BTW, if you decide you need the 2.5 exhaust, I've got an MBRP exhaust on my '07 wagon and it's a solid, well built piece and sounds excellent, and pretty good value IMO. Cheers.

[ZX3_2NV]

PM sent back as for the 2.25 Exhaust i made 220 whp with the Presion kit with a Magnaflow no problem and im still runnning that exhaust i just switch it to a dump for the track

[naz]

Flofocus,Apr 12 2008, 10:30 PM Wrote:Heres some pics of my adventure.  :P
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dude nice pics you are almost convincing me i should have boosted my focus instead of selling out

to give the OP more perspective (EDIT: and to make me feel a bit better about my choice :ph34r: ) can you please post pics of your 'had to swap out the motor' adventure too?

[Flofocus]

naz,Apr 14 2008, 01:57 PM Wrote:

Flofocus,Apr 12 2008, 10:30 PM Wrote:Heres some pics of my adventure.  :P
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dude nice pics you are almost convincing me i should have boosted my focus instead of selling out

to give the OP more perspective (EDIT: and to make me feel a bit better about my choice :ph34r: ) can you please post pics of your 'had to swap out the motor' adventure too?
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Fawker :P :lol:

For Dyno tuning, another important tip, you want somebody that knows what theyre doing. Or else you will end up with a blown motor:

[paulicat]

LOL, thats a good point naz, what was the story behind that flofocus??

[Flofocus]

paulicat,Apr 14 2008, 02:11 PM Wrote:....what was the story behind that flofocus??
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A tuner who didnt know what they were doing. He's out of that business now but still has a few people looking to kill him. :lol:

Let's just say, its not too bad blowing up a $400 zetec, but when you blow up a mustang engine with over 10 grand in block parts alone.....yeah...self explanatory. :blink:

[DD1]

thanks for the pics I forgot how ugly Jay was LOL