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Looking into '07-'08 BMW 335i and '09 Cadillac CTS-V (your opinion please)
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It came to my attention that sometime in the future I'll be buying another car. Still not sure if I can part with my Subaru but if the price is right and if I won't have enough room then AWD beast will have to go.

Two cars that really been catching my attention lately are 2007-2008 BMW 335i (auto) Sport package and 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (auto). Both sedans, both F/I, both beautiful vehicles, both got balls.

A little background on both cars:

2007 BMW 335i
First year when BMW started putting twin turbos on inline 6.

ChassisBrakes F/R:ABS, vented disc/discTires F-R:225/45 R17Driveline:Rear Wheel DriveEngineType:Twin-Turbo Inline-6Displacement cu in (cc):182 (2979)Power bhp (kW) at RPM:300(224) / 5800Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:300(407) / 1400-5000Redline at RPM:7000PerformanceAcceleration 0-60 mph s:5.3Top Speed mph (km/h):150 (241) - electronically limitedFuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km):19/29 (n.a.)


2009 Cadillac CTS-V
First year when Cadillac got detuned ZR1 engine.


Engine
Type:
6.2L supercharged V-8 (LSA)
Displacement (cu in / cc):
376 / 6162
Bore & stroke (in / mm):
4.06 / 103.25 x 3.62 / 92 mm
Block material:
cast aluminum
Cylinder head material:
cast aluminum
Valvetrain:
overhead valve, 2 valves per cylinder;
0.492-in (12.5 mm) lift
Supercharger:
Gen. 6 R19 with single brick intercooler; 1.9L displacement w/4-lobe rotor design
Fuel delivery:
SFI; center feed
Ignition:
direct-mount ignition coils; extended-life dual platinum-tipped spark plugs
Compression ratio:
9.0:1
Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm):
550 / 410 @ 6200 (est)
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
550 / 745 @ 6200 (est)
Recommended fuel:
premium recommended but not required
Maximum engine speed (rpm):
TBD
Additional features:
pan-mounted oil cooler; cast pistons; high-flow cylinder heads; block-mounted piston squirters; steel crankshaft w/ 8-bolt flange; close-mounted converters; acoustic engine cover; E67 engine controller



Not too long ago my friend let me drive his 2007 (4 door, auto) 335i Sport from Toronto to Kitchener. And let me tell you, that thing was a blast to drive. Great power, comfort. Just a nice car to be in.
On going price on these year of a car is about $25k


Can't really tell anything about the Cadillac CTS-V. Coworker picked up 2012 two door version and will be bringing out in the next couple of weeks. So waiting on my ride
Been reading a lot about this car and to be honest I'm probably more about it than Bimmer. Interior looks very nice, exterior is bad ass, magnetic ride from what I heard is like riding on clouds. And who in the right mind wouldn't want 550bhp?!
On going price on this year right now is about $42K. But it looks like these Cadillacs have a hard depreciation. I mean 3 years ago brand new they were $70K. Which is ok. Maybe next year I can find one for $35K give or take.

Please let me hear your opinions, personal experience with these 2 vehicles. Let me know if you know any issues with them at all.

Thank you
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(04-11-2012, 05:13 AM)NikiterZTS Wrote: It came to my attention that sometime in the future I'll be buying another car. Still not sure if I can part with my Subaru but if the price is right and if I won't have enough room then AWD beast will have to go.

Two cars that really been catching my attention lately are 2007-2008 BMW 335i (auto) Sport package and 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (auto). Both sedans, both F/I, both beautiful vehicles, both got balls.

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BMW - lower initial cost, better depreciation long term, better initial build quality (probably) and in this case less high-tech to go wrong once you're out of warranty.

Additionally there are tons of BMW tuners / repair shops out there if you don't want to go to the dealer and lots of aftermarket stuff - with the Caddy you're probably stuck with the dealer or maybe a vette specialist.

Having said that - be prepared to be blown away by the over the road dynamics of the Cadillac - I know a couple of BMW guys who drove one on the track and they were very impressed.

And finally, for me anyway, I just haven't warmed up to the Caddy's looks - too much over the top boy racer for me.
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Need more room for more girlfriends? lol Big Grin
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if it was this Caddy then yes, but go with the BMW and you will have less headaches

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Nick, before getting the 335, do yourself a huge favor and drive the 335d as well. You wont be disappointed. You will also save 30% on fuel cost as well.

335d is a beast! Geared towards performance.
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#6
To me, BMW states Toronto. Then again, I've never seen a dealership outside of the GTA.
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#7
Both are kick ass. The cts has great power gains with simple bolt on's I heard from a customer at performance improvements who has one, added like 100 horses with chip exhaust and intake.

The 335i is also bad ass, a friend had one, 10 I think, x drive manual. Quick car with tune and down pipes but the focus hung around with it pretty good and beat it once or twice. Very solid build quality too.
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(04-11-2012, 07:53 AM)Oscar The Grouch Wrote: Need more room for more girlfriends? lol Big Grin

Lol you can say so.

To me CTS-V is such a boss car. I'm getting old probably...
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125whp/129wtq
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207whp/273wtq Innovative tuned on Mustang dyno (Stage 2)13.9@99mph
320whp/330wtq Innovative tuned on Mustang dyno (Stage 3)
352whp/360wtq Dynojet
13.3@106mph
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Buddy was a tech at Budds.

335's especially earlier ones have serious fuel pump issues... apparently BMW is on their 10th revision of the fuel pump design and they still keep failing. I'd be weary of an earlier model.
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(04-12-2012, 01:03 AM)scoobasteve Wrote: Buddy was a tech at Budds.

335's especially earlier ones have serious fuel pump issues... apparently BMW is on their 10th revision of the fuel pump design and they still keep failing. I'd be weary of an earlier model.

Yes, that's a known issue on those.
2002 Ford Focus ZTS (Gave it away)
125whp/129wtq
2006 Subaru Impreza WRX with JDM 6 speed
207whp/273wtq Innovative tuned on Mustang dyno (Stage 2)13.9@99mph
320whp/330wtq Innovative tuned on Mustang dyno (Stage 3)
352whp/360wtq Dynojet
13.3@106mph
2004 Ford F-150 Lariat
2008 Honda CBR600RR "Silver Bullet" R.I.P.
2009 Honda CBR600RR "To Punish & Enslave"
2001 Honda CBR F4i Stunt bike "Burn the Rubber, not your soul"
2013 China 90cc dirt bike
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(04-12-2012, 01:03 AM)scoobasteve Wrote: Buddy was a tech at Budds.

335's especially earlier ones have serious fuel pump issues... apparently BMW is on their 10th revision of the fuel pump design and they still keep failing. I'd be weary of an earlier model.

X2 but that Twin Turbo Engine is a beautiful. Tons of Torque down low. I have never driven a 335i 4 door or X drive but i have driven a coupe and i must admit that is a very strong and underestimated 300hp.

With that being said it is not in the same league as a CTS-V.... World Beater. If you dont mind refueling often and having to replace rear tires every 5000k : ) I think the choice is ovious.
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#12
Being a tech at a gm/Cadillac dealer the V is a monster no big known issues. Tons of power and fun to drive
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BMW 335I - 335d - 335xi - M3

Keep in mind that the 3 series is a drivers car, and that there are 3 trims available for the 335i series, and the M3 is the top trim, and the X versions is the AWD option if your still wanting the grip and safety of a passive AWD system. And d if your wanting a car that gets great MPG, and has torque out the ass, and has a better over all resale value then any of the other cars in the 335 line up. That said with any BMW, I'll give you a heads up that the bulk of used BMW's on those off little dealerships come from Quebec, and I'd highly recommend getting it checked out properly to see if its been in a big accident, as with any BMW lease return thats sold at auction here in Ontario, from Quebec will have a claim over $5000+ on it.

As with the Caddy Yes, it's a great car to drive, and the interior is much better then past caddys but the down side is the caddy brand itself. I will tell you if you buy one, once the car reaches 7 years, or over 100k on the odo kiss any resale values down the drain. If your looking at buying one, concider importing one from the US, as there is a larger selection of those models, and some come with extra features not sold here, and since they have the newer GM digital ODO's it's easy to switch it over to KM's, and the car already comes with DRL's, so you'd be able to buy a newer one and save a lot of cash (up to $20,000) if you buy an American model with under 30,000miles on it, and import it.
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#14
Where does one get a BMW fixed? I'd hate to try and find service for it. Local garage? Hell the alternator on my 3.8 Chevy gave out once and it took over 18 hours to get a new part.
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bmw 335, oil cooler, FMIC, DP, exhaust, tune, make over 400whp. get bishes.

that s**t cray.
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(04-14-2012, 07:10 AM)moon111 Wrote: Where does one get a BMW fixed? I'd hate to try and find service for it. Local garage? Hell the alternator on my 3.8 Chevy gave out once and it took over 18 hours to get a new part.

Try rmp
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