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My New Car
I have beaten stock civics with no problem at all. Maybe the driver I donno not my problem. But weight on the cars is the same, tq is higher on the focus what do you think will accelerate faster


EDIT >When I get home I'll find the whole weight and tq formula. to prove it.
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Congrats on the car Jay, hope you enjoy it. :)
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ZX3TUNR,Mar 27 2006, 02:29 AM Wrote:Some of you guys worry about money way to much. Its only money.
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Daaamn right.

Even tho I wouldn't trade my Focus for a Civic, I must admit I had fun driving my sis' SI.
I mean, the important thing is lovin' it, not what other people think, or else, we wouldn't be driving Focus.
That's a nice car man. 'grats.
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Phantom,Mar 28 2006, 11:16 PM Wrote:But weight on the cars is the same, tq is higher on the focus what do you think will accelerate faster

Torque is for lawnmowers.

Some of the fastest civics have horrible TQ numbers, BUT they always make max at peak.. and that makes all the difference in the world.... go vtec.
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tdot-zx3,Mar 29 2006, 01: Wrote:
Phantom,Mar 28 2006, 11:16 PM Wrote:But weight on the cars is the same, tq is higher on the focus what do you think will accelerate faster

Torque is for lawnmowers.

Some of the fastest civics have horrible TQ numbers, BUT they always make max at peak.. and that makes all the difference in the world.... go vtec.
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torque is for tractors, HP is for lawnmowers.
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darkpuppet,Mar 29 2006, 08:18 AM Wrote:
tdot-zx3,Mar 29 2006, 01: Wrote:
Phantom,Mar 28 2006, 11:16 PM Wrote:But weight on the cars is the same, tq is higher on the focus what do you think will accelerate faster

Torque is for lawnmowers.

Some of the fastest civics have horrible TQ numbers, BUT they always make max at peak.. and that makes all the difference in the world.... go vtec.
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torque is for tractors, HP is for lawnmowers.
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it's undeniable that torque is what gets you going, but so long as you drive properly for your torque curve, you're fine.

Focus has lower end grunt, not necessarily high end grunt.
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darkpuppet,Mar 29 2006, 07:19 AM Wrote:
darkpuppet,Mar 29 2006, 08:18 AM Wrote:
tdot-zx3,Mar 29 2006, 01: Wrote:
Phantom,Mar 28 2006, 11:16 PM Wrote:But weight on the cars is the same, tq is higher on the focus what do you think will accelerate faster

Torque is for lawnmowers.

Some of the fastest civics have horrible TQ numbers, BUT they always make max at peak.. and that makes all the difference in the world.... go vtec.
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torque is for tractors, HP is for lawnmowers.
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it's undeniable that torque is what gets you going, but so long as you drive properly for your torque curve, you're fine.

Focus has lower end grunt, not necessarily high end grunt.
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Why did you post twice and quote yourself?
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OAC_Sparky,Mar 28 2006, 06:09 PM Wrote:[quote=SVT ZX3,Mar 28 2006, 06:04 PM]Maybe more than your fOCUS. ;)
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Not MY Focus!
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Nor mine... Last dyno = 156 @ the wheels
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scoobasteve,Mar 29 2006, 09:23 AM Wrote:
OAC_Sparky,Mar 28 2006, 06:09 PM Wrote:
SVT ZX3,Mar 28 2006, 06:04 PM Wrote:Maybe more than your fOCUS. ;)
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Not MY Focus!
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torradan,Mar 29 2006, 09:49 AM Wrote:Wow what the heck do they do up there to yank teeth?  Use medieval instruments?  Sounds like so many bad experiences!  My dentist just sat on my chest (she is TINY) and pried them out.  No pain or anything.  Plus she is nice to look at, so I was slightly distracted.

I had 2 yanked out a couple years back.. had a smoke when I walked out of the dentist's office (big no-no),  an hour later I was at work in the warehouse carrying on as usual, lifting and all that fun warehouse stuff.  I only took the good happy drugs they gave me on the first day, after that I was fine, except for getting really tired of the taste of blood in my mouth.  A couple of days eating pudding and ice cream and stuff.. then was back to eating normal food
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Nor mine... Last dyno = 156 @ the wheels
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You got some wierd quotes that was from my wisdom tooth thread.

Edit and the 2006 Civic LX only has 140HP @6300rpm right from honda.ca. 4hp more than the focus. mmm. I like my tq better
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Yeah... fixed..

well sorta :/
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Wicked Jay, those are SWEET ASS cars no matter what any of these freaks say!

Congrats!
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Jays2000ZX3,Mar 29 2006, 02:52 PM Wrote:Wicked Jay, those are SWEET ASS cars no matter what any of these freaks say!

Congrats!
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coming from a guy who drives a Grand Prix... :ph34r: :ph34r: :P :P
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Jays2000ZX3,Mar 29 2006, 03:52 PM Wrote:Wicked Jay, those are SWEET ASS cars no matter what any of these freaks say!

Congrats!
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I resent that. :P

I'm just popularity challenged.
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Phantom,Mar 29 2006, 10:30 AM Wrote:Edit and the 2006 Civic LX only has 140HP @6300rpm right from honda.ca. 4hp more than the focus. mmm. [right][snapback]177787[/snapback][/right]
Not my Focus! :lol:
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OAC_Sparky,Mar 29 2006, 04:11 PM Wrote:
Phantom,Mar 29 2006, 10:30 AM Wrote:Edit and the 2006 Civic LX only has 140HP @6300rpm right from honda.ca. 4hp more than the focus. mmm. [right][snapback]177787[/snapback][/right]
Not my Focus! :lol:
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Mine Either!

OH SNAP!....
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Will to be quite honest I didnt really care about HP numbers or what car was faster or what car had more tourqe etc.
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scoobasteve,Mar 29 2006, 03:23 PM Wrote:
OAC_Sparky,Mar 29 2006, 04:11 PM Wrote:
Phantom,Mar 29 2006, 10:30 AM Wrote:Edit and the 2006 Civic LX only has 140HP @6300rpm right from honda.ca. 4hp more than the focus. mmm. [right][snapback]177787[/snapback][/right]
Not my Focus! :lol:
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Mine Either!

OH SNAP!....
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Well I was meaning stock vs stock. Stock 2005/06 focus 2.0 duratec is 136hp, civic is 140 for the 2006 atleast.
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Keep in mind though

Hondas 1.8L SOHC motor makes more HP then Fords 2.0L and almost as much as there 2.3L

In the end I think Honda has the better engineering.
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ZX3TUNR,Mar 29 2006, 05:30 PM Wrote:Keep in mind though

Hondas 1.8L SOHC motor makes more HP then Fords 2.0L and almost as much as there 2.3L

In the end I think Honda has the better engineering.
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hahaha... WTLW.

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ZX3TUNR,Mar 29 2006, 04:30 PM Wrote:Keep in mind though

Hondas 1.8L SOHC motor makes more HP then Fords 2.0L and almost as much as there 2.3L
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Thats true for 06, but what did their 1.8 SOHC put out last year, sumthin like 127 with V-Tec????

Here stats for the 2004 "Si", I'm sure 05 was a carry over....
Engine 1.7 litre 4 cylinder, SOHC, 16 valves, VTEC
Horsepower 127 @ 6300 rpm
Torque 114 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm


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