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V6 Swap
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ok so i have a 2003 se 2.0 wagon i was wondering if the ranger 3.0l v6 would be a drop in, or what would be a good one to drop in?
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#2
There is a bolt in kit that Ford Racing sells and it will allow a 4.6L or a 5.0L to fit snuglly inside. But I think it's only the frame and suspension they offer you have to provide a engine and all the other goodies.
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#3
ok thanks, do you have a link or a price?
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WOAH!!!!! Where???? I want!
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logoris,May 5 2009, 03:09 PM Wrote:ok so i have a 2003 se 2.0 wagon i was wondering if the ranger 3.0l v6 would be a drop in, or what would be a good one to drop in?
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I think you'd have to find a front wheel drive donor - eg: the Contour 2.5 or perhaps the Taurus or Fusion 3.0 ...
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ZTWsquared,May 5 2009, 04:15 PM Wrote:
logoris,May 5 2009, 03:09 PM Wrote:ok so i have a 2003 se 2.0 wagon i was wondering if the ranger 3.0l v6 would be a drop in, or what would be a good one to drop in?
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I think you'd have to find a front wheel drive donor - eg: the Contour 2.5 or perhaps the Taurus or Fusion 3.0 ...
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ok thanks, iv done some more research and i think making a rwd zetec, it would be more fun, im thinkin of using a miata rear end and transmission only thing i need to figure out is how to mount the zetec 90* turn

i still would like to find that conversion kit
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logoris,May 5 2009, 04:23 PM Wrote:ok thanks, iv done some more research and i think making a rwd zetec, it would be more fun, im thinkin of using a miata rear end and transmission only thing i need to figure out is how to mount the zetec 90* turn

i still would like to find that conversion kit
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Well ... in that case research the Mustang V8 swap for Focus ... lots of resources for that and of course the awesome exhaust note.

This is just one - Kugel Komponents
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thanks

and do you know if would a stang transmission fit on the 2.0 zetec
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logoris,May 5 2009, 07:25 PM Wrote:thanks

and do you know if would a stang transmission fit on the 2.0 zetec
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Okay - to be clear - to make a swap to RWD the first thing that goes is the engine and transmission ... so the terms 2.0 and Zetec no longer apply - - with engine and tranny out it's a Focus shell ... and frankly it could have been an SPI to begin with and it would all be the same.

So the answer is &quot;no&quot; you cannot use a transmission from a RWD vehicle on the Zetec engine which is engineered for FWD.

You can, however, use certain Mustang transmissions when used in conjunction with a RWD application V8.

If you checked out the link I gave you, they specify what engines and transmissions will work with their V8 kit ... ie: the T5 manual and the C4 automatic
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ok that makes sense
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I remember seeing a show about a Lotus 7 kit (Caterham) using Zetecs in RWD configuration.

There is some information in this links below that may help you:

link to connecting zetec to rwd transmission

another link to connecting zetec to rwd application

zetec rwd conversion kit

Another zetec rwd thread
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dBlast,May 5 2009, 09:27 PM Wrote:I remember seeing a show about a Lotus 7 kit (Caterham) using Zetecs in RWD configuration.

There is some information in this links below that may help you:

link to connecting zetec to rwd transmission

another link to connecting zetec to rwd application

zetec rwd conversion kit

Another zetec rwd thread
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Ford Racing no longer sells the Kugel Kit I beleive they got suied. But for a V6 Swap a SVT Contour Motor Would prob fit best.
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logoris,May 5 2009, 04:09 PM Wrote:ok so i have a 2003 se 2.0 wagon i was wondering if the ranger 3.0l v6 would be a drop in, or what would be a good one to drop in?
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Why would you want a 3.0l Vulcan in it? About the same hp and torque as a Zetec, just way heavier.

If you want to go V-6, go with a Duratec of some sort. 3.0, or a 2.5 would be your best bets.
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why even swap? boost FTW.
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reldridge,May 6 2009, 02:53 PM Wrote:
logoris,May 5 2009, 04:09 PM Wrote:ok so i have a 2003 se 2.0 wagon i was wondering if the ranger 3.0l v6 would be a drop in, or what would be a good one to drop in?
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Why would you want a 3.0l Vulcan in it? About the same hp and torque as a Zetec, just way heavier.

If you want to go V-6, go with a Duratec of some sort. 3.0, or a 2.5 would be your best bets.
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I was going to say, the SVT Contour motor would be good BUT theres a reason they swap them out for 3.0L Duratecs so you might as well try that- one buddy in Burlington swapped a 3.0L duratec in his SVT and dynod 215WHP, plus Nautilus makes turbokits for those motors and average member is putting out over 300WHP with that setup
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Flofocus,May 6 2009, 02:08 PM Wrote:why even swap?&nbsp; boost FTW.
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i had found engines for cheaper then a turbo/supercharger
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Flofocus,May 6 2009, 03:08 PM Wrote:why even swap?&nbsp; boost FTW.
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sometimes, boost isn't enough.
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Oscar The Grouch,May 6 2009, 04:13 PM Wrote:
Flofocus,May 6 2009, 03:08 PM Wrote:why even swap?  boost FTW.
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sometimes, boost isn't enough.
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would a turbo off a ford merkur xr4ti with the intake manifold fit on the zetec i found one for $350 with the intake manifold. the xr4ti was a 2.3l do you guys think the 2.0l zetec, if it would fit other then the blow off valve what else would i need to use it, it is only the manifold and the turbo
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logoris,May 6 2009, 09:44 PM Wrote:
Oscar The Grouch,May 6 2009, 04:13 PM Wrote:
Flofocus,May 6 2009, 03:08 PM Wrote:why even swap?  boost FTW.
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sometimes, boost isn't enough.
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would a turbo off a ford merkur xr4ti with the intake manifold fit on the zetec i found one for $350 with the intake manifold. the xr4ti was a 2.3l do you guys think the 2.0l zetec, if it would fit other then the blow off valve what else would i need to use it, it is only the manifold and the turbo
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The Merkur used the 2.3 Lima engine (can you spell Pinto) - so it's doubtful the manifold would match up to the Zetec - but maybe the turbo itself might be useful although it would have to be more than 20 years old now.
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2003 Focus ZX5 infra-red Track Rat - R*I*P
2003 ZX5 CD Silver Track Rat - retired, but still in the driveway


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* New Zetec crate motor - NFG - thanks Topspeed *
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