05-04-2013, 11:18 AM
Can somebody explain global spark to me and what is the best setting? Also would I have to add fuel at wide open throttle ?
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05-04-2013, 11:18 AM
Can somebody explain global spark to me and what is the best setting? Also would I have to add fuel at wide open throttle ?
05-04-2013, 12:18 PM
Spark adjustment across entire rpm band as opposed to changing within a range. You want spark advance higher in higher rpm for more power typically with a high revving motor. The spark advance on my sedan ramps up like crazy towards top end
2007 ZX4 2.0l unaturally aspirated
FSwerks stage 2 Turbo kit, Cosworth Intake Manifold, 3" custom HKS turbo back regular stage 2 @10ps : 232whp/219wtq stage 2 plus @ 13psi: 278whp/229wtq Stage 2 plus @15psi: 296whp/240wtq 2013 Focus ST Tuxedo Black - The daily
05-04-2013, 12:22 PM
So if I set it at +2 it will be at +2 all the way across?
05-04-2013, 10:18 PM
Correct. As for air to fuel, you really need a wideband to do anything.. Even with spark to adjust you should be on a dyno to make sure you aren't lossing power but improving it and where.
The first time I dyno'd I adjusted between runs when I was N/A and I ended up gaining about 5whp from spark and fuel adjustments on the x2
2007 ZX4 2.0l unaturally aspirated
FSwerks stage 2 Turbo kit, Cosworth Intake Manifold, 3" custom HKS turbo back regular stage 2 @10ps : 232whp/219wtq stage 2 plus @ 13psi: 278whp/229wtq Stage 2 plus @15psi: 296whp/240wtq 2013 Focus ST Tuxedo Black - The daily
05-05-2013, 12:16 AM
(05-04-2013, 11:18 AM)adamzx5 Wrote: Can somebody explain global spark to me and what is the best setting? Also would I have to add fuel at wide open throttle ? To get the most out of advancing the spark you want to increase the octane rating of your fuel - newer cars will advance the timing when it senses higher octane fuel, and similarly, older cars will reduce timing when it senses knocking.
2008 Fusion SEL MTX - DD1 * 2009 Fusion SEL - DD2 * 2007 Focus ZXW - R*I*P * 2004 Focus ZTW CD Silver - sold * 2004 Focus ZTW Black - sold * 2003 Focus ZTW Black - sold * 2001 Focus ZTW Gold - sold * 2000 Focus SE Wagon (ZTW option) - Black - sold * 2000 Focus SE Wagon (ZTW option) - Gold R*I*P
2003 Focus ZX5 infra-red Track Rat - R*I*P 2003 ZX5 CD Silver Track Rat - retired, but still in the driveway New track rat: 2000 ZX3, Atlantic Blue * JRSC with lots more to come * New Zetec crate motor - NFG - thanks Topspeed *
05-05-2013, 02:06 AM
So im using 91 in my 03 should I raise it or lower it?
05-05-2013, 03:03 AM
(05-05-2013, 02:06 AM)adamzx5 Wrote: So im using 91 in my 03 should I raise it or lower it? Well generally speaking the higher the octane number the more timing advance you can safely do ... your specific situation is harder to assess - depends on how much timing advance your tune starts with.
2008 Fusion SEL MTX - DD1 * 2009 Fusion SEL - DD2 * 2007 Focus ZXW - R*I*P * 2004 Focus ZTW CD Silver - sold * 2004 Focus ZTW Black - sold * 2003 Focus ZTW Black - sold * 2001 Focus ZTW Gold - sold * 2000 Focus SE Wagon (ZTW option) - Black - sold * 2000 Focus SE Wagon (ZTW option) - Gold R*I*P
2003 Focus ZX5 infra-red Track Rat - R*I*P 2003 ZX5 CD Silver Track Rat - retired, but still in the driveway New track rat: 2000 ZX3, Atlantic Blue * JRSC with lots more to come * New Zetec crate motor - NFG - thanks Topspeed *
05-05-2013, 03:23 AM
Ok cool. Thanks for the info.
05-05-2013, 04:44 AM
more timing = more power
but more timing also can = detonation=destroyed engine. I wouldn't adjust that unless you've got someone to validate your not detonating. I know the ZETEC knock sensor sucks so you can't really go by that.
05-05-2013, 04:49 AM
Yea once I get the wideband in I will play with it some more. Where is a good place to put it on the fswerks race header?
05-05-2013, 03:44 PM
I leaned it out a bit and added spark nothing to major. But its pulls like a new car all over the rpm range. From about 1500-7000 it pulls alot harder, I raised the idle and its manners around town are much better. I just can't wait to get it on a dyno to really get it tuned.
05-06-2013, 02:06 AM
So do you have a racer package from SCT or some other tuning software?
Just curious...
Currently - 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE 4X4 Work Truck. Needs a Super Charger
2012 F150 Eco Boost Work Truck < Died several times and now it's some farmer problem. No Longer Sleeping/In Surgery Having A Heart Transplant - 2005 Focus ZX5 Sonic Blue Modified Sold - 1992 Astro Van CS Sky Blue Stock Sold - 1994 Excel 2DR HB Teal First Car
No just using my x3. I have been thinking out getting the pro racer package though.
10-19-2013, 02:16 PM
If you want to give me a call or call me I will show you a few things that will tell you if your engine wants more timing or doesnt want more timing , you have the xcal
I can take over your laptop hooked to the car and show you things like I was sitting in the car with you Tom |
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