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naz,Sep 17 2007, 05:53 PM Wrote:if you can lock up your wheels or engage ABS in the dry with your current brake setup, you will not get more 'stopping power' no matter what you purchase unless you get tires with more traction

on my '00 focus i felt that the hawk hps was more like OE replacement brake pad. it dusted a lot less, initial bite felt the same. i never experienced brake pad fade with either stock or hawk HPS, but i suspect that if you were able to overheat the stockers you would have started to overheat the hawks also because i don't believe the temperature range of the hawks is significantly higher than stock.

the stock pads in the focus (unless they changed them a lot since '00) are pretty good.  i have seen/heard of lots of people who make close to stock power levels who track with stock brakes and have no problems

what exactly are you doing out of curiosity that you are getting brake pad fade? where were you driving, and what tires were you using?  it is possible that a 'street' pad won't work for your driving style or for that course
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Well I haven't locked up the tires yet in the dry, tires are the stock p6. As far as brake fade, its on a winding road on the way home ( I try to keep up with my friends 02 WRX, so neadless to say I'm on the brakes alot.