[2001 ZTS]

Irregardless of the details it is these dumbasses who make life difficult for the rest of us.

There is a REAL chance thanks to them that potentailly any one of a large number of us here could be doing nothing at all unsafe but be in the wrong place at the wrong time and still get lumped together with them and lose our cars, $10G and all the associated garbage that goes with it.

I can so easily see myself being picked up by an airplane on a clear dry straight country road/400 series somewhere for doing 50 over the limit doing nothing at all unsafe to me or anyone but charged the same as if I were doing at night downtown on the DVP.